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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295162 Archived-At: --000000000000c535a805e86189bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Commenting those lines makes the yasnippets and mode menus disappear. /PA On Sun, 11 Sept 2022 at 07:38, Po Lu wrote: > Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > > > Hi, following the discussion of the state of the GTK port, I gave it a > > chance yesterday and have reverted to the X driver for my Linux > > boxes. The reason for me to drop pgtk for the moment was that I had a > > 2 second delay between clicking on a menu item and the menu > > appearing. Some people will tell me to use the key bindings and > > disable the menu... I use a lot of snippets and having them on the > > menu helps me apply my neurons to other tasks than learning snippet > > triggers by heart ;-) > > I've heard of that bug before, but I cannot reproduce it. > > What happens if you comment out this part of gtkutil.c, around line > 3305? > > { > pgtk_menu_set_in_use (true); > set_frame_menubar (f, true); > } > > > > Don't know what to do when the first pure Wayland distributions > > appear. Maybe other users are in the same situation and 'statement > > from the oracle' may help us all... > > I think "Pure Wayland distributions" will probably not appear in the > near future, and we will see the situation remain as it is now, with > both X and Wayland sessions being offered. > -- Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --000000000000c535a805e86189bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Commenting those lines makes the yasnippets and mode menus= disappear.

/PA

On Sun, 11 Sept 2022 at 07:38, Po L= u <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrot= e:
Pedro Andres = Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi, following the discussion of the state of the GTK port, I gave it a=
> chance yesterday and have reverted to the X driver for my Linux
> boxes. The reason for me to drop pgtk for the moment was that I had a<= br> > 2 second delay between clicking on a menu item and the menu
> appearing. Some people will tell me to use the key bindings and
> disable the menu... I use a lot of snippets and having them on the
> menu helps me apply my neurons to other tasks than learning snippet > triggers by heart ;-)

I've heard of that bug before, but I cannot reproduce it.

What happens if you comment out this part of gtkutil.c, around line
3305?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pgtk_menu_set_in_use (true);
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 set_frame_menubar (f, true);
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }


> Don't know what to do when the first pure Wayland distributions > appear. Maybe other users are in the same situation and 'statement=
> from the oracle' may help us all...

I think "Pure Wayland distributions" will probably not appear in = the
near future, and we will see the situation remain as it is now, with
both X and Wayland sessions being offered.


--
Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um = gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headach= es with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.u= niter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't = yet

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