From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python-mode: Why python-interpreter defaults to "python" instead of looking for python/python3 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:32:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874jqv3uab.fsf@gmail.com> <87ilf1atyx.fsf@gmail.com> <87o7otf19h.fsf@posteo.net> <875yb0blxu.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ef629a05f71da389" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38193"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Augusto Stoffel , Philip Kaludercic , =?UTF-8?B?TWFydMOtbiBGZXJuw6FuZGV6?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 17 20:33:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdFpW-0009nk-FC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:33:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdFon-0007WW-F1; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:32:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdFol-0007WI-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw1-x1130.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1130]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdFoj-0008JD-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yw1-x1130.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5418c2b8ef2so112583487b3.5 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:32:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1679081560; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2XoXb6Yneyxoebv4+32szRGnQ9ZOFTpb1gdMJR11Z/A=; b=pW7D8XnWF7EMr/PycmsCMkMBs8Lqs/L8xl5XlI/NH3tDBuVPDMaGGqNCOm7/DRsDH5 ziqQXztS3nEWCcaqZNZTMWUV9GbTPcpy51SATxPhZ3L4gd4CbR5nfFlj5saR8rr4Q1AC aMTUwk5HNgqsP3y5LHYO6tpLSIIujIEppVO4m87pINAU2g3RnuiGPadH3PGDnWYmQ6QD KRvzCL1+oNN6O5tgRaj34WdU2sBVX47O1xbtAJ1kIkOJjVJPXcS8j0Le5WRbjXdys7nf m9SU9ak80pa/y193gyJRmPkTO3gaHuzSrD21x2IGeVQ7Q4dffnttmKBg3CZcXBGMBIda dcDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679081560; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=2XoXb6Yneyxoebv4+32szRGnQ9ZOFTpb1gdMJR11Z/A=; b=739fQTjDoGJLVjYXVKSTqxA1qNUwu0xMTDOxRpoCNxs9cXECMIth8WQKoK0EXvNtd9 Twk16iCfpMM6pzBCnoXjWHnwvIl1nZ5BJkuF/9/6I3H1ozmh20OvM0WSco+EGMzlndYN 4KrbFwRbMuqH7LdqtatQOsadsjNLL7S9HzAwbF7dfR/6RBHiVMsvBZWbjvOBY2IRoSMX KZ1fqZ5WjhzkUWhgymwPQTpiOIJX07TIRs2mPgoAkqtkwmTQ+3YONnRuNVQLWDZaGzEV tX1ciPM/qiSZd76TQo8IkwM/ISiHIEVI2p2TU94hamU5gMNp+N2en/J2QubxhmTTdnf8 VgvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKU8awoNTjv6wyQLM3S7Fygq46rb0p71buwzz2rD6a10fxx8Odp3 WF+9xfUesynMslxSUqmboQqdvhX6cGY462bfs1c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9BGl55AB4JUjftfG7TdbWVNXEEnhstkylSHe6GYDsJpE95znZx6c4KJwLNoREAWT56Uh5gtzgPy3YIe1cKa9A= X-Received: by 2002:a81:ac4c:0:b0:52e:f77c:315d with SMTP id z12-20020a81ac4c000000b0052ef77c315dmr2590362ywj.3.1679081560037; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1130; envelope-from=yandros@gmail.com; helo=mail-yw1-x1130.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304558 Archived-At: --000000000000ef629a05f71da389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 2:46 PM Yuri Khan wrote: > On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 01:18, Augusto Stoffel wrote: > > > I would like to understand why python-is-python3 is not installed by > > default nowadays. It is in Fedora, for instance. > > As far as I understand, Debian is trying to provide a very gentle > transition period for users, and enforces explicit python versioning > in all its packages. It also encourages developers to specify > explicitly python2 or python3 by not shipping the /usr/bin/python link > by default (except for upgrades from older distro versions). > > Maybe one day we can say there is only one Python version. But today > is not that day. > FWIW: I'm running Debian 11, and there is no "python" by default. There is a python3 included in the base, and there is NOT a python2 included in same, under any name. Hope that helps, ~Chad --000000000000ef629a05f71da389 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 2:46 PM Yuri = Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com= > wrote:
On F= ri, 17 Mar 2023 at 01:18, Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to understand why python-is-python3 is not installed by > default nowadays.=C2=A0 It is in Fedora, for instance.

As far as I understand, Debian is trying to provide a very gentle
transition period for users, and enforces explicit python versioning
in all its packages. It also encourages developers to specify
explicitly python2 or python3 by not shipping the /usr/bin/python link
by default (except for upgrades from older distro versions).

Maybe one day we can say there is only one Python version. But today
is not that=C2=A0 day.

FWIW: I'm ru= nning Debian 11, and there is no "python" by default. There is a = python3 included in the base, and there is NOT a python2 included in same, = under any name.

Hope that helps,
~Chad
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