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From: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, public@beloved.name, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html be renamed to Maxmize-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html ?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 16:05:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO2hHWbfoH=G=kQPSxB_3KhMxzNLgkSk-YvKq4qpZNDe7H2ZOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnG4TsxBefibwvpWDnTKzKWdCY6_xn7C=QY4v9OfJx9tQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 7:07 AM Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Probably not with this specific one, but other customizations of
> > default-frame-alist could potentially have undesirable effects.
>
> If we want to add this to the FAQ, perhaps we could add a disclaimer [...]
>

I don't have strong opinions about how frequently this (sort of) question
comes up, but I can add a couple data points:

First, I've been doing this sort of frame configuration in early-init.el
basically since it was added to master.

The general class of things that can cause problems, from my memory, is
things where the setting depends on some gui-specific stuff that is not yet
initialized during early-init. For example, conditioning on window-system
is questionable. Another "common" problem I've seen is setting fonts in
initial/default-frame-alist without checking to ensure that Emacs can find
the named font. In fact, since the arrival of early-init.el, I have, at
various times, conditioned the setting based on finding the font in
font-family-alist, and/or moved the setting to
server-after-make-frame-hook. These days I just set it unconditionally and
live with the (very rare) trouble when setting up on a new system, but I
wouldn't suggest that in a FAQ or piece of beginner advice.

If we want to try to gather some other settings that might apply to this
case, I'll mention that setting menu-bar-lines, tool-bar-lines,
vertical-scroll-bars, and scroll-bar-width in early-init.el have all helped
avoid redraw/flicker on various systems in the past. Memory suggests that
setting frame-inhibit-implied-resize in early-init.el can have an impact
here, but those memories are partially based on a variety of older gui
systems, and might be less impactful today.

As usual, I hope this helps,
~Chad

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-21 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 21:05 Should https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html be renamed to Maxmize-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html ? David Hedlund
2023-09-30 13:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-30 18:09   ` chad
2023-09-30 18:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-30 19:06       ` David Hedlund
2023-09-30 19:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-02 22:40           ` David Hedlund
2023-10-02 23:05             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-05  3:56               ` David Hedlund
2023-10-21  9:35           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-21  9:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 10:02               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-21 11:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 20:05                 ` chad [this message]
2023-10-21 12:55             ` David Hedlund
2023-10-22 22:24               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-23 13:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 15:25                   ` David Hedlund
2023-10-23 15:33                   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-23 15:58                     ` David Hedlund
2023-10-28 17:25                       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-28 17:34                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28 18:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 19:39                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28 18:02                         ` David Hedlund
2023-10-28 20:03                           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-11-04 13:58                         ` Stefan Kangas

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