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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256899 Archived-At: --0000000000005c1b4e05b0a0d65c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:14 AM James Lu wrote: > Has anyone checked if Wiktionary's quality is good? > > In my experience, Oxford dictionary are better than Meriam-Webster's > dictionary. > My favorite professional editor tells me that in general, for English definitions and usage, MW is preferred to the OED. OED is generally better if you care specifically about etymology, but otherwise, MW has the edge for usage, especially modern usage, as the OED is (deliberately) slower to add words and update usages. This is, of course, a very broad comparison, and both are good enough for most people. Hope that helps, ~Chad --0000000000005c1b4e05b0a0d65c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:14 AM James Lu &= lt;jamtlu@gmail.com> wrote:
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Has anyone checked if Wiktionary's quality is= good?

In my experience, Oxford dictionary are bet= ter than Meriam-Webster's dictionary.

My favorite professional editor tells me that in general, = for English definitions and usage, MW is preferred to the OED. OED is gener= ally better if you care specifically=C2=A0about etymology, but otherwise, M= W has the edge for usage, especially modern usage, as the OED is (deliberat= ely) slower to add words and update usages.

This i= s, of course, a very broad comparison, and both are good enough for most pe= ople.

Hope that helps,
~Chad
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