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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306420 Archived-At: --0000000000005bd17d05fcec00f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:09=E2=80=AFAM Gregory Heytings wrote: > > The Rust compiler is not known for being stable, as people apparently > > very rarely use only the ``stable'' features of the compiler. > If > what you need is stability, you should use the stable branch, which is, > for that matter, the one that is installed by default. > I will add that I have used several rust-based packages over the last several years, both as part of dabbling a bit with the language's unusual features and as part of a decades long side-interest in reimplementations of the Unix/Posix "standard user and developer toolset" (that started with getting GNU on early SVR4 systems and has also included "rewrite everything in perl", at least 4 different versions of unix-y toolchain for Windows, 3 of same for macOS, and busybox). I've never used the nightly (or beta) toolchain for any of these, and have never needed to do so. I hope that helps, ~Chad --0000000000005bd17d05fcec00f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:09=E2=80= =AFAM Gregory Heytings <gregory@= heytings.org> wrote:
> The Rust compiler is not known for being stable, as people apparently =
> very rarely use only the ``stable'' features of the compiler.<= br>If
what you need is stability, you should use the stable branch, which is, for that matter, the one that is installed by default.

I will add that I have used several rust-based packages ove= r the last several years, both as part of dabbling a bit with the language&= #39;s unusual features and as part of a decades long side-interest in reimp= lementations of the Unix/Posix "standard user and developer toolset&qu= ot; (that started with getting GNU on early SVR4 systems and has also inclu= ded "rewrite everything in perl", at least 4 different versions o= f=C2=A0 unix-y toolchain for Windows, 3 of same for macOS, and busybox). I&= #39;ve never used the nightly (or beta) toolchain for any of these, and hav= e never needed to do so.=C2=A0

I hope that helps,<= /div>
~Chad
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