On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:16 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: chad > > Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 17:12:00 -0700 > > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel , > Eli Zaretskii , > > Richard Stallman , Stefan Monnier < > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> > > I think that it's fair to say that it currently leans away from the > method that a large > > number of new coders are demonstrating that they prefer. The question is > if and how far emacs is willing to > > change to adapt. > > IMNSHO, it's inaccurate, and even somewhat unfair, to claim that Emacs > doesn't adapt. Nowhere did I "claim that Emacs doesn't adapt". I asked, in a very specific context that you quoted, if and how far emacs is willing to change to adapt (to "the method that a large number of new coders are demonstrating that they prefer"), since it is already adapting (in many, many ways). I will also claim that emacs-devel, as evidenced by this discussion, at least somewhat resistant to change. Resistance to change is a very common attribute, especially of older systems, systems that value stability, and systems that value history -- all of which, I think you and I agree, is true of Emacs/elisp/emacs-devel. It is not a fault, although it can be pushed to an extreme that becomes a fault. In many contexts, it is a strong virtue. For one example, search for Jamie Zawinski's comments on "The CADT Model". I hope that makes my point clear. And, because I haven't said it in a while, thanks again for all that you do for emacs! ~Chad