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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306013 Archived-At: --000000000000e8f92205fb46ca79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I am guessing that this is a pun on "evil-mode", but I am inclined to > agree. At least "evil" stands for "extensible vi layer for Emacs". > Semantically, it's something of a cross between the popular packages "evil mode" and "god mode". I do understand that it's pretty strongly 'inside baseball'[1], but it's also (IMHO) the sort of idiosyncratic package that one would usually not expect new-to-emacs users to pick up right out of the gate. Hope that helps, ~Chad [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_baseball_(metaphor) --000000000000e8f92205fb46ca79 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am guessing that this is a pun on "evil-mode"= ;, but I am inclined to
agree.=C2=A0 At least "evil" stands for "extensible vi layer= for Emacs".

Semantically, it'= s something of a cross between the popular packages "evil mode" a= nd "god mode". I do understand that it's pretty strongly=C2= =A0'inside baseball'[1], but it's also (IMHO) the sort of idios= yncratic=C2=A0package that one would usually not expect new-to-emacs users = to pick up right out of the gate.

Hope that helps,=
~Chad


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