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From: Klaus-Dieter Bauer <bauer.klaus.dieter@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can the byte-compiler check whether functions passed by name are defined?
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:17:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANtbJLHt-buKFqg8Ry6j--JoZgAC5tL+JG1SH8GsC-6QHr4fPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1u681aic.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

2013/8/5 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>:
>>     (mapcar (if flag 'f1 'f2) list)
>>     => (mapcar (if flag #'f1 #'f2) list)
>
> No, I definitely don't want to get into such fanciness.
> But I do want compiler warnings if the coder writes
>
>      (mapcar (if flag #'f1 #'f2) list)
>
> and `f1' or `f2' are unknown.

My code does that and indeed that was, what I first implemented. I
then added the second check, where (quote f1) is handled for functions
known to be higher-order.

>> Shouldn't the markup for user-written functions be a bit easier?
>
> I'm not too worried about it, no.  We should instead aim to teach people
> to write #'foo instead of 'foo.

I am not sure about that... On the one hand, I see your point, since
consistently writing #'function is better for the byte compiler, as in
the (if flag #'f1 #'f2) form; If #'f1 is the standard method people
will write (if flag 'f1 'f2) and not get a warning.

On the other hand though, subjectively, #'f1 is a huge deal more
visual clutter and somewhat awkward to type (on a German keyboard at
least). Might be just a training effect, but I also feel that the
hash-quote sequence moves the attention away from the function name,
while 'f1 does not (or #f1, '#f1 for that matter, but those are not
elisp).

  - Klaus



  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-05 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-29 10:35 Can the byte-compiler check whether functions passed by name are defined? Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-07-29 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-31 13:44   ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-07-31 17:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-31 18:01       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-08-01 20:31         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-04 18:41           ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-04 21:11             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-05  8:52               ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-05 14:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-05 18:17                   ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer [this message]
2013-08-07 11:27                     ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-07 14:41                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 15:11                       ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-07 15:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 17:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 21:11                             ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-07 21:59                               ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-08  1:25                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08  8:44                                   ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-08 13:07                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 19:59                           ` Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013-08-07 21:14                             ` Stefan Monnier

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