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From: Josh <josh@foxtail.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Tyler Smith" <tyler.smith@mail.mcgill.ca>,
	"Thomas Koch" <thomas@koch.ro>, "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs and XDG Base Dir Spec was: persistent storage for Emacs packages
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:54:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANdFEAEP+a5u-DLysxcQBm=JAovx-5Jxbj095wuTjgupf=KZkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk3h64dx3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> From Stefan's comment it sounds as if I should pull everything out of
>> .emacs.d except init and elpa. But it's convenient for me to have emacs in
>> its own contained world on my computer. Is there a risk of breaking
>> something with this approach?
>
> The problem with adding ~/.emacs.d to your load-path is one
> of namespace.  E.g. Gnus expects ~/.emacs.d/gnus.el to be the user's
> Gnus config.  So if you have such a file and add ~/.emacs.d to your
> load-path, you'll have a conflict where (load "gnus") will load your
> Gnus config file rather then loading Gnus proper.

I do not mean to nitpick, but this is the first I have heard that load-path
should not include ~/.emacs.d (or I suppose more generally
user-emacs-directory), so I would like to understand the thinking here.
I see the following in trunk:

    gnus-init-file is a variable defined in `gnus-start.el'.
    Its value is "~/.gnus"

    Documentation:
    Your Gnus Emacs-Lisp startup file name.
    If a file with the `.el' or `.elc' suffixes exists, it will be read instead.

    You can customize this variable.

Leaving aside the fact that this file is located by default in ~ instead of
~/.emacs.d, it seems that the config filename's leading dot would obviate
any namespace issue.  If that is so, are there any concrete examples of
trouble that could result from ~/.emacs.d's presence in load-path?



  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-21 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-18 16:45 persistent storage for Emacs packages Tyler Smith
2013-10-18 17:44 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-10-18 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 22:37   ` Josh
2013-10-18 22:49     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-18 23:00       ` Josh
     [not found]       ` <18713_1382137341_5261BDFD_18713_15_2_da88b78b76204dbcbbf9b5a4acbe6a0c@EXHUB2010-3.campus.MCGILL.CA>
2013-10-19  1:37         ` Tyler Smith
     [not found] ` <19473_1382126090_5261920A_19473_52_3_0b1fb8bede554cb79d9303697d2056a2@EXHUB2010-3.campus.MCGILL.CA>
2013-10-18 20:01   ` Tyler Smith
2013-10-19  1:53     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 22:45 ` Karl Fogel
2013-10-18 22:48   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-11-21 16:13     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-22 13:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-25 13:30         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-11-25 16:58           ` Nic Ferrier
2013-11-25 19:21             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-20 19:19 ` Emacs and XDG Base Dir Spec was: " Thomas Koch
2013-10-20 23:16   ` Glenn Morris
2013-10-21  5:07     ` Jan Djärv
2013-10-21  6:32       ` Glenn Morris
2013-10-21  7:47         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-10-21  9:35         ` Jan Djärv
2013-10-21 12:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-21 13:31         ` John Yates
2013-10-21 15:25           ` Barry Fishman
     [not found]       ` <17329_1382360340_52652514_17329_164_1_1c38477173ab4b6cb80a8c50bd6dd0e9@EXHUB2010-1.campus.MCGILL.CA>
2013-10-21 13:19         ` Tyler Smith
2013-10-21 18:09           ` Josh
     [not found]           ` <20874_1382379012_52656E04_20874_7_7_6906997aba2b4fc2b717f1f695c0e3df@EXHUB2010-2.campus.MCGILL.CA>
2013-10-21 18:24             ` Tyler Smith
2013-10-21 19:37               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-21 20:54                 ` Josh [this message]
2013-10-21 21:00                   ` Glenn Morris

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