From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419220540 351 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2014 03:55:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 03:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom , Emacs-Devel devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 04:55:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2u5l-0000lf-GQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:55:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2u5k-0007L9-MX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:55:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2u5f-0007L4-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:55:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2u5e-00022x-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:55:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]:42004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2u5c-00022T-9j; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:55:24 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id ex7so6776400wid.0; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:55:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=7mEPz+ENuQnAaeZBtfkxyX5hh56xtIOF2If6jbYc8NA=; b=bXDDUm+gpTfSP9H9jR8O8YqkWob1IAAZO2zjw3fR111OGegFN9shz7xUI/gowwwmPo irVj2lH8IDydeJw27skiyHnw0puYQb/Mj5fm9t19NRmnEWyM9jhlg1zYIU0ko7c1hdMc CpKHnJ25UZM4fwz4w6VW/G3om7QJ/Bsc8ezCqxjrr34H3W9Ugyt7E0LPY9mpVbjVvrRv 7iejycPDAp0nTjkSb8StWuh+G1JtaJzzTscJN1gdAavtGuxUYcGSYu1j9KFoLc0VOcJi r6ptLMF9CYwYzLUUegS5r7joIgivf9De2PEaf5l6STNt2DBl0esIYAPy60TqGxBD9XVp aRlA== X-Received: by 10.180.73.235 with SMTP id o11mr27393450wiv.51.1419220523509; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:55:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:54:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180462 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Tom >> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:32:13 +0000 (UTC) >> >> Users want to get the information fast and it is much faster to >> search for something in google than trying to find the relevant >> section of the manual. > > That's simply incorrect, if you use the 'i' command in Info, which is > the main way of searching an Info manual. That is perhaps more an opinion? I definitively think users who know Google search well can find the information very quickly that way. And new users - who we want to help, of course - probably are very good at that. That is my opinion. ;-) > Once again, with Google, you never know whether the info you see is up > to date or even correct. This is not true. You do not have to search the whole internet just because you use Google. You could do something like this: Google: "site:www.gnu.org/software/emacs/24.2/manual/ some thing" If that folder exists there, of course.