From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419721488 6730 80.91.229.3 (27 Dec 2014 23:04:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 23:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom , Drew Adams , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Richard M. Stallman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 00:04:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50PW-0007Zv-R4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:04:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57086 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50PW-0001fd-7a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:04:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50PJ-0001fY-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50PI-0006CO-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]:57475) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50PG-0006C1-Dd; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:04:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x12so16389501wgg.25; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:04:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q8GQZ+gk6uOCjz0DREyaNHoHJsHOVvIrBdGae2t8Z40=; b=BXMt4BZ8qQrN/Mi7uTA5zPklocXbRpVc2j/898GVBddn0cJWInD2LcR5F7BSV3jTo7 eyQOyKp9lu2Q5R6hLXTZiR33TFRXsfrFpTkWlrKj8wseOfkiaTgv+hWANz7UqMFPHBgh z5Kwpmza1a8SQYlGCZ78pZ3J3eRBIP48iNJ7Hsk5q8r9OAxli1T+gkhghRkWF7j0NlXI tUR8M12rqrbTFE4kc+4Gwu0PJbKKagFS53/Uih9VlF8uhQ/aoY6RXO5e70aU4gx8GPt5 jLHcz1zuQzhLhOD9s0xFrv1Npwu3RMRZuJpgIbVXJ9h4UGweMPcL/60CZ3RUTI/PWvu/ B9oA== X-Received: by 10.180.208.112 with SMTP id md16mr79578426wic.37.1419721461768; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:04:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:03:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180729 Archived-At: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > The reason I don't want to adopt this position is that it implicitly > > > assumes we should treat "use Google" as the recommended solution. > > > I'm guessing that your objection here is not to recommending web > > search but to recommending the use of Google. > > I object to recommending web search as the primary way to find > documentation. I should have stated this more clearly but I already > said it a week ago. It is unclear what you object to. Is it: 1) Using a service like Google etc to find documentation. 2) Using internet as a communication channel to a (search) server set up and controlled by FSF to find documentation?