From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbl2nqxl.fsf@gnu.org> <8361d1nh30.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419440191 4467 80.91.229.3 (24 Dec 2014 16:56:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Turnbull , "Richard M. Stallman" , Nic Ferrier , Emacs-Devel devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 24 17:56:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3pEV-0002vZ-2M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:56:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3pEU-0002hn-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:56:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54895) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3pDZ-00024R-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:55:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3pDY-0006Zi-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:55:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:35206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3pDU-0006XG-SX; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:55:21 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id bs8so14024847wib.4; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=RZU4ix4aLgbcjT3FGV1deK5mlMmhzxyq3J0EXdLFQik=; b=pch2zqQHYLgEOj6/lhQdhCe/QsR199wpuNT+ExJSJErGvu2l/gOg3jZSy9urVt8dKz fHjwO2lEvk3pH4t865l7VFNFqfCP+k9HYgCplC/E3qLvFN9eRapeHc0j7AUxby2g+3EM BHXsPteKohBYvZR+N4Y5AB7S7JmFZpj0qDAaxO60SW1ZClVo2jZwkkNQ9//oaBgwVBTT Cz3btsneCcv9Uhf5tIVM+FIGUlhI/xu/hN4IgOF3aY4HyZjNjsL5T7I3ETWymaCFoOLJ ycLQ2CoFhjqEelLnj07ZeLZEm6gprBVx8Tqy6KvbUiBpl0qneT+1h/yu20iBvZysU6vQ yv4Q== X-Received: by 10.180.95.136 with SMTP id dk8mr34055314wib.64.1419440120181; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:54:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8361d1nh30.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180648 Archived-At: On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 04:56:22 -0500 >> From: Richard Stallman >> Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, nferrier@ferrier.me.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Yes it can. We just have to design ways to represent, in HTML, the >> necessary data for these features to operate on. Then implement the >> features (perhaps in HTML for use in IceCat, perhaps in other ways >> too). > > I'd need to see some initial design for that, in order to agree. > > I'm not an expert, but AFAIK HTML is not an extensible format, there's > no place there to represent entities that are not already defined by > whatever organizations that codify HTML. You can use the class attribute in HTML for that: This is my detail. Though everything used in HTML is not standard, yet. This discussion (a few years old) seems to give a good glimps on how it evolves: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3659778/can-i-add-microdata-from-html5-to-a-xhtml-strict-site-and-still-be-compliant