From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 08:08:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4pp39du.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419923359 30628 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2014 07:09:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 07:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "Richard M. Stallman" , Nic Ferrier , Emacs-Devel devel To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 30 08:09:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5qvV-0007NM-BS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 08:09:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35911 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5qvU-0003ZC-Fp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58067) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5qvF-0003Ye-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5qvE-0008Bq-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:08:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]:49691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5qv9-0008Az-46; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id u56so576030wes.30; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=sD9qBfSy5aa2L1Totv7Bu8KeRevgo/j3Q0bIjLwizI4=; b=OiMv5nZ5GpLPwzt11fKHFZm/Soe/SA/qmNFjO8uZSq+JYYi3tWEfVgaHAr3r/t6xvG LqKVHEElvGIT1IbsmmuUMlXhhI7UbtuZBSW9sBJ1l6lzfCe1N+L3UqZVSamy8bShIV0W uPLVVrcGkuVGLwvbSyIvM+nhEJeTCERUPpjMhTYUIzjJ/0mm8/s3zoSlb1X3/cFklMOD fXPWkrG/I1USiX2028Rbd0FCUQcGBfaDyfcwWdx+quIuXvsdgAdtoopT0JwcCmBUJcei fUdKS0nHIThwKNmpP8+Fh8o6q0i39P83MgSAdr8VmIhb9DJx7pUU3nyymHONigmulTTU TYzQ== X-Received: by 10.180.107.195 with SMTP id he3mr99733687wib.44.1419923326556; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:08:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:08:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4pp39du.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180881 Archived-At: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:05 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: >>> >>> I've decided to reject the idea of depending on a net connection >>> for searching our documentation. Please take this as decided. >> >> I do accept that. >> >> But that does not mean such an alternative can not be valuable too. >> New users will probably mostly use that approach to begin with. > > This feels like discussing the nourishment value of steak in a > vegetarian diet, saying that new vegetarians will most probably start on > steak. > > I have a hard time reading any sense into "I do accept that" in this > context. That is your problem. Not ours.