From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:50:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <3096922F-ACE6-4D70-BDB9-F6110FF8C62A@gmail.com> <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3709c90c87c04ef66b2a7 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389124272 19039 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 19:51:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 20:51:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cgG-0003df-Pi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:51:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42524 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cgG-00008U-Fn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:51:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cgC-00008O-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:51:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cgA-0007DK-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:51:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]:42573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cg9-0007Cf-HJ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id z12so408903wgg.6 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:51:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tNh61FT5ZLgJwcOZFt19SfGCUsIkWyHppiClBd+buYA=; b=jpCWOaqsG2I9frvJ6aWnxAXsNcLcFY56Cs5eDoJC2KO9cHZPG3AHxsKY92gSGnL2iM 2R44D2kcojZIwkSKyiQqiYr4ouGHaPdQuOCsqv0HFnuA+4RafSY4Hbe2chgK3pqWi6c0 YGZg9umiAPB6OY5h//0pMu4YyE2vbTmIS94uRjaQRTKM9nDqKG1Q/09y5Qjs6TCls0ZD UH7HMNJHWVPsjgx1jeaj9ANowzfEhXrkRcPXaEi3HR2x9w6R4DT46oWP8/IaPF2jPvu8 m+dh8TY+VMtTmrlEICT9p/n+VeY0GJLd1qndfphvpYpPaZ4MOEDzmqF1GDCWznTucWvR mfRQ== X-Received: by 10.180.211.141 with SMTP id nc13mr17393384wic.1.1389124268376; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:51:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:50:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167669 Archived-At: --001a11c3709c90c87c04ef66b2a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Joel Mccracken writes: > > > Beyond trying to remember, using current terminology is sends the > > message that Emacs is old, stubborn, and crufty, which is a problem > > when trying to introduce new users to Emacs. > > Emacs _is_ one of the old great ones. You are trying to make Gandalf > more popular by plucking his nose hairs. > > The great thing lives in its power, not in the nose hairs. Just pick them. ;-) --001a11c3709c90c87c04ef66b2a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM, David Kastrup <d= ak@gnu.org> wrote:
Joel Mccracken <mccracken.joel@gmail.com> writes:

> Beyond trying to remember, using current terminology is sends the
> message that Emacs is old, stubborn, and crufty, which is a problem > when trying to introduce new users to Emacs.

Emacs _is_ one of the old great ones. =C2=A0You are trying to make Ga= ndalf
more popular by plucking his nose hairs.

The great= thing lives in its power, not in the nose hairs. Just pick them. ;-)=C2=A0=

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