From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:10:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419073874 7365 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2014 11:11:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phillip Lord , David Kastrup , "Allen S. Rout" , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 12:11:08 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2HwC-0003ND-C0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:11:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34007 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2HwB-0005yU-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 06:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Hw7-0005yP-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 06:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Hw6-00027d-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 06:11:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]:58751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2Hw4-00026y-Nr; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 06:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x12so3234675wgg.38; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 03:10:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hqRzomy6Igu3+oVFKFoOj1mUGK0j5MIV21/lN9fGdOQ=; b=sY0fIE4JCRavC4VwAnUJyfWQ8UrPLh/LLnTIIMTh9OPWi8/tR1nhuHug07XeYDT/O0 EOjifS6R0zEiVuqMzcftfzjkZKq4Nyjf/24DUHmvnBYFr+C/RGZkVvDGcPyLYdJAqh57 S2s//+K4/+1SoAoG1YKOvJFrWWFAaX60rfr7W7FeNxZXlEEF7SSkR1zC0k8pisly+GSm BYiyLtKV1OPRsXuLf5uuseS1MFjEIPSCGTNgi+UTHEPqNZ21ayLlPrj7+ENwTFGIYkGv R/CX+l7C/eXlk9/W8LAhiAMEWj72bvqcu7COykr+gsmomeCykxPIP19/dWMUC+FlaU9W RNWQ== X-Received: by 10.195.11.6 with SMTP id ee6mr23503196wjd.95.1419073859514; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 03:10:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 03:10:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180367 Archived-At: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > David Kastrup writes: > > > There is actually another hidden hurdle that has not been > > mentioned: the target format "Info" is not independent from the > > manual's organization of content: content is organized into > > node-sized chunks, with a somewhat hierarchical organization > > intended to make all non-bottom nodes fit on a screen if feasible > > in order to make navigation fast. > > I don't think this is a big problem, though. I don't see any reason > why the organization into "nodes" or "pages" (as in the original > intent of *nix "man page") would change. It's the obvious way (at > least to me) to provide modularity in documentation to correspond to > the modularity of the program. With HTML5 you can use "ajax" which can make it very fast to fetch small nodes. You simply just update that information on the web page (instead of fetching the whole web page). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)