From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:25:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <20140105205645.GA12781@thyrsus.com> <87r48m2is1.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <929DF82A-EF65-415B-84E1-46F23057CDB7@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb04022f4901f04ef40a030 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388960770 17374 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2014 22:26:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 22:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Raymond , Florian Weimer , Toby Cubitt , Richard Stallman , EMACS development team To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 23:26:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzw99-0005aQ-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:26:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59665 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzw98-0006wn-Mf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:26:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzw95-0006wa-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:26:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzw94-0001mq-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:26:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]:49155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzw8z-0001mW-5X; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cc10so2185094wib.16 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:26:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=rAeB1XNV5odek5X4i20HWgPQPS3HKgx2/UEiIOD7EiY=; b=BAwFoEXDaFva8/vnAdIzC/QZtm2EAqu81HdPIJfllOp8GoQa0MNM035ebj/c2eY9QN +7vhKkZoNKMX93IWzp0S1u3Xht96Fs2Op6z8OTzRbdK3rsZFZqZapx6Ph5rHA5qzzzeF sMF/M/cLGiDisJon5+lgsYjFDFrrk3DegSEvJWoqX5hjL7tk5f6wBabVcmRW7R6PCQVl GwZY6DbKfDGwNyQAOnMbf6WhLquqRD/8yfG1Vvt79YwXCd9/7By3RZ8d2PFJfk4Irj8Q bPzsqKo9GtCHyirgPDt/2YSD/ogbmfrDk3UqxqlgqaJyDqDlddsSHJ267bf3tZy+13qA 89mA== X-Received: by 10.194.81.196 with SMTP id c4mr277689wjy.57.1388960764168; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:26:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 14:25:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <929DF82A-EF65-415B-84E1-46F23057CDB7@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167404 Archived-At: --047d7bb04022f4901f04ef40a030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 PM, chad wrote: > > Windows as tabs by default would almost certainly improve familiarity by > default. > The keybindings are confusing to many people. People who accidentally > split-window are very confused. > > Tabs is a very good feature, but it can't replace "split windows". The latter must be taught to beginners. --047d7bb04022f4901f04ef40a030 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 PM, chad <yandros@gmail.com> wrote:

Windows as tabs by default would almost certainly improve familiarity= by default.=C2=A0
The keybindings are confusing to many people. People = who accidentally split-window are very confused.

T= abs is a very good feature, but it can't replace "split windows&qu= ot;. The latter must be taught to beginners.=C2=A0

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