From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:27:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <878uushwnq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37c10562f2604ef5fac3e X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389094100 30328 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 11:28:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Toby Cubitt , Emacs-Devel devel , Eric Raymond , Stefan Monnier , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Drew Adams To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 12:28:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Upe-00010k-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 12:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Upe-00040T-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 06:28:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Upa-00040K-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 06:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0UpZ-0007ye-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 06:28:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]:58404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0UpY-0007yB-4J; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 06:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id t60so10424wes.23 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:28:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tb4kyb7ePQHHaee1r/4XuS8J/Zp04sSSu80Q1hWCIj0=; b=ZznPzrzM34qS88up4BDQQ+VDqrsXITtDXBAUjLaS4C2Zmp+bXf4GPU2UuEcP7JAvlS lafd5pALc2iRNqU2gHjS+NyA+v45LciCw+b9YfdjCFhdlxpzTXHWLrKTNy6lIJWo57ZZ 2G/8mE4mkknC2DNv+m6g4+pxdboZfdVU30xJUQwdUOMpFuPgPii2087S302cAV+MRe/s bAFVr1zWH+I8oiIxl3TOjmqwg5GJDNJfdt72ZSDdSRavRCMa6my2WniB86nuFvJ4peOk LAErtn0SD6PrIgVz96MQoBrBqvISvPG0mJPAXheRmieRBhiO7JOx+Vtf9sNHBfU9YpB4 5jNQ== X-Received: by 10.180.206.11 with SMTP id lk11mr16485712wic.16.1389094099101; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:28:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 03:27:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878uushwnq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167593 Archived-At: --001a11c37c10562f2604ef5fac3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Agreed. The important disconnect is between windows and buffers, and > even that isn't so hard for users to figure out. I think people used > to recent browser interfaces will call buffers "tabs". > I think that is a good illustration of how confusing different terms can be... ;-) "Tabs" is a UI thing. Calling buffers "tabs" would be very, very confusing for most new users. --001a11c37c10562f2604ef5fac3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:

Agreed. =C2=A0The important disconnect is between windows and buffers= , and
even that isn't so hard for users to figure out. =C2=A0I think people u= sed
to recent browser interfaces will call buffers "tabs".

I think that is a good illustration of how confusing= different terms can be... ;-)

"Tabs" is a UI thing. Calli= ng buffers "tabs" would be very, very confusing for most new user= s.
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