From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:57:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418313526 4405 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 15:58:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Raymond , Emacs-Devel devel To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 16:58:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz68X-0003wZ-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:58:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz68W-0001LE-VZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:58:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz68T-0001Kv-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:58:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz68S-0000L7-AK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:58:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]:41919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz68Q-0000KS-Hz; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l2so6807978wgh.13 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w7TYRSaZ0am7PFTo21d91UXKRd5G+Egel/6dESB1jTU=; b=HFCAXzTuBzhl2Wr/PZd7JWRekUJNj6epO0ePm9nU6JWK15mBCGy+N4QdDjekHIwZ4w Gne+J8w60dMN08WHstWhAxk75ESGImM3yW8Bze1s+iCThOAbrCHx4vu8jcM4XmSHKdrj n1/2jJtGftYeHwFaAO7PV4zewEDrus+Tzm0c92OZfzSXbuB/RIiPGu0JX2KtvAybaVd5 kDqywKIcuRJuJgP7OkL9fo5A+cV+FEpmn1VQW52rcN4fjjY4SK5+bKLqemrdCITq4nEk r1s69Oo48b4aepeZh28M5u6IE8CExzBEJQSnc6Dwe4r8CRZIVq02b6ReEIB1APbIpvWM QVLA== X-Received: by 10.180.78.9 with SMTP id x9mr24234233wiw.39.1418313513742; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:58:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:57:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179779 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > > GNU has a culture of high-quality documentation. Texinfo is a tool for > that, providing features like indexes, cross-manual references, > documentation-oriented markup, and several output media. AFAIK, neither > AsciiDoc nor =E2=80=9Cheavier=E2=80=9D options like DocBook support all o= f that. > > Info browsers make it easy to browse manuals, search for index terms, > follow links, including to other manuals. A Web browser cannot achieve > that because a Web browser is not designed for that. Not by itself, but with a good search engine it could. I am just testing http://www.opensearchserver.com/ and I am surprised by the quality and the easy of use - even locally. (Though to use it locally you need Java. But the setup is just copying one file. A web server is builtin.) Here is test page I have just written: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/848981/it/oss/zosspx.html