From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:15:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31kga2y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87r3vsdps7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba97a86cae473050adf75b7 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419329773 31936 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2014 10:16:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 10:16:13 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-Devel devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 11:16:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3MVY-0003rJ-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:16:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43870 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3MVS-0008I6-Tj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3MVP-0008Hy-LN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:15:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3MVO-0004pF-Hz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]:58502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3MVO-0004p7-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:15:54 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id l18so8672121wgh.12 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:15:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W8C9u4Kzw6J0RmF2UbO0vAvOJin0XjLYiF05MeIKWGU=; b=ixwcZLI/ST7rClUFwhLVzOEwBcLgQOZtAuPHNIt7oOach5wfaXYc3EWngBuvtp3wVs t4UJ5/Rn/ZzHK8fBPjKqDj1wmSU19thWRFpJbEmgxw5RL6FD4lD7Gl1qdl1TyPvtO4wY 6RouI7RdwEy/mvtNfinJ3F1kU2yKyQz1Qbcgs7oYRmoLCzaR/dkgMfl+z3IkMIkRBqIG O1pQ/0e4IUsQnRTp+V9W5YpKcBHkEQ/iuq4GuCCKfPX6PEjQuY89UFT8zxOgZT+qJhDF 5Oip9Ab7EfnGBlh+YCJccSkjYiHUIiXg4n9O/wjIo4TnzQE1ew2ImNLdT6zQNFZ6rFto +5yQ== X-Received: by 10.194.63.169 with SMTP id h9mr27538558wjs.23.1419329753766; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:15:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:15:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:15:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180550 Archived-At: --047d7ba97a86cae473050adf75b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Dec 23, 2014 10:28 AM, "Steinar Bang" wrote: > > >>>>> Yuri Khan : > > > I=E2=80=99m a firm believer in closing tags explicitly and properly. > > Especially when the markup is not hand-written but generated. There=E2= =80=99s > > just no excuse for generating invalid or sloppy markup. > > +1 In html5 there is also single tags (whatever they call them,I don't remember right now). The preferred way is to write
instead of
. Btw, this is something html5 indentation code must take care of. It must have a list of those tags to be able to do that, of course. --047d7ba97a86cae473050adf75b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Dec 23, 2014 10:28 AM, "Steinar Bang" <sb@dod.no> wrote:
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> >>>>> Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>:
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> > I=E2=80=99m a firm believer in closing tags explicitly and proper= ly.
> > Especially when the markup is not hand-written but generated. The= re=E2=80=99s
> > just no excuse for generating invalid or sloppy markup.
>
> +1

In html5 there is also single tags (whatever they call them,= I don't remember right now).

The preferred way is to write <hr> instead of <hr /= >.

Btw, this is something html5 indentation code must take care= of. It must have a list of those tags to be able to do that, of course.

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