From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418338329 2376 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 22:52:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Richard M. Stallman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 23:52:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCaR-0004sA-Dm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:51:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54558 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCaQ-0007RD-AY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:51:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCaL-0007R6-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:51:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCaL-0008Qx-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:51:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]:34452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCaJ-0008Qi-Cd; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:51:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l2so7732935wgh.41 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6ixUJNzMdWx6BQLKJfRaHnsatAsAmHD6bdSsU0fQ93o=; b=InDLj6gXy0Bqkd2RmaeTVI8xPo7RLePqLk+yxl9GBFHmzqbDL0Iv8Xu7XVo884SdGU lZP+VWtCkfcliaFaB98Rtugd2TCKyLwV6HCCPTuJMkW+94wodA1xuGMlEY6wdGV+x1XN 94kajcYyX4TNcU1PHwXph1uAqFFn8PUYGsa3mDIO4ghtukHRe6OH4gGpJFWmZkFg9WSi 231L3fResUvnAistdl+QRzbv8DArPnDx81ePpp87DxyGyIdSDAYmvb73fhjv0GTqh4Pt k/5TGvflz0shZi6xIvzdjyRVPCiWmFqu4KtTfho4wXs+IS4smgMZTjhJIc80959wcX3L dC/w== X-Received: by 10.180.221.72 with SMTP id qc8mr2095307wic.19.1418338306604; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:51:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179843 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Please don't use the term "consume" to refer to looking at a work. > It's inaccurate because looking at a text doesn't consume it. > > What makes that error really significant is that that term is used > to encourage people to adopt a shallow economistic mindset > that supports the propaganda of our enemies. Yes, "consume" is a bad word to use here. But is not "enemy" a bad word too? I think you use it to say those people believe in other things. Though that does not really make them enemies IMO. Using the word "enemy" might make it more difficult to listen to them. Good ideas comes also from people we do not always agree with. Can we afford to waste good ideas by not listening at all? (Of course we should listen critically, but that is another thing. And nothing to worry about, really. At least not here. ;-) )