From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:30:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb04c4481e63c04ef5ee067 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389090683 22794 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 10:31:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Toby Cubitt , Emacs-Devel devel , Eric Raymond , Stefan Monnier , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 11:31:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0TwW-0007yl-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:31:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39713 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0TwV-0006Hf-Q6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 05:31:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59711) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0TwR-0006HY-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 05:31:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0TwQ-00082H-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 05:31:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]:52280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0TwO-00081x-RN; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 05:31:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k14so17117310wgh.32 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 02:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=kgmm9lQndnI6klCukwySqjPPPJGg72dtgrbtlP+PwcE=; b=Z8JOgQTvordMy+2apg9uYk5wvuzzlHORCmvPHGRU+TlMfA2j0znBZsXF1an90s7lC0 d2upePK7ZvTo+/yjDt66iwtLZsFjJPGmRnRRnRFcYJ231pFRpvBJkpmUokCnPYmW0RHe Sj8VAPHJh94hlCiM1TB9bet9XmURWM47rgcz0ZAbck3Om1i2s2ohLmobvjnYIvMvdk7g /1aauS5OsMl7LZzynS4sLnDbHRnsJfDHaAS/gQKl/+7NTq0mcckz95717bk4Dy76gyBJ QK4xg3RpDFzuGvxTLL5WZdmryN3BCj8EUbN+Y+vsbUzx5f7SrXWc/n5xuaVwJUUfLh5Z oCUw== X-Received: by 10.195.13.130 with SMTP id ey2mr9691396wjd.7.1389090679414; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 02:31:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 02:30:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167586 Archived-At: --047d7bb04c4481e63c04ef5ee067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Drew Adams wrote: > > What confusion? Is there really a problem? Are you sure? > > I've been dealing with newbie Emacs questions and confusion > for as long as most of you, and I don't think I have ever > encountered a user who had difficulting understanding what > we mean, once the terms are presented. > > The difficulty is not understanding, but rather remembering. "What a h-ll did they call that?" --047d7bb04c4481e63c04ef5ee067 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

What confusion? =C2=A0Is there really a problem? =C2=A0Are you sure?

I've been dealing with newbie Emacs questions and confusion
for as long as most of you, and I don't think I have ever
encountered a user who had difficulting understanding what
we mean, once the terms are presented.

The difficu= lty is not understanding, but rather remembering. "What a h-ll did the= y call that?"

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