From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 13:23:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871tnrevk6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419251045 28614 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2014 12:24:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Emacs-Devel devel , Eli Zaretskii , Tom To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 13:23:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y321m-0002fE-5o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 13:23:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40313 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y321l-0006Od-Bh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:23:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y321f-0006LR-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y321e-0005Xa-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:23:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]:52945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y321b-0005X6-P9; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:23:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r20so7863822wiv.6; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:23:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=P8imZDyVbdNVYuL3Y+Mh7gpMH+ZKdu66aWtwSjOAVz0=; b=AkQcgKIzzZwP0Ei/+WJ9an/S42GJNftbO7LE64ls9FiodOpK5lJAlaVoSlh0tR5CPd qH2azHIvxmGHPXEQMWenR7KkEA8O4b4bPUXgDnrbtD4bWDf1nNm7kuVsHseXWbk9ggVs /R24J15RgYBGlLOGHVlLQbkrSRsH2fz93GWnRV5QrnZLtDUQ47FvQzKRDFI9RtyLXePO 9t8BLW/gIfsS+uORAOrE3QQOupgU3nEX6Tse3sn+uBNgara9/FqEvLCynqe447IKyzVy xc8p76X+wUDBYRXq08nvbfgLAeXwzOzVJA+x8Xwtrx1xpRy/hmGVhQ9LpI5XTC+tYdoe WUbQ== X-Received: by 10.194.59.33 with SMTP id w1mr41522395wjq.123.1419251027058; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:23:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:23:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <871tnrevk6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180482 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>> Lennart Borgman writes: >>> >>> > >>> > Google: "site:www.gnu.org/software/emacs/24.2/manual/ some thing" >>> >>> A truly horrible search to type, of course. >> >> ;-) -- You do not do that, normally. Two alternatives: >> >> 1. You open an equivalent URL. From within Emacs for example. Or from >> a web page. >> 2. You create a Google CSE. Works very well upto 200 documents (and >> perhaps a few hundred more.) > > The LilyPond manual pages have a search box that works like the first > option, I think. Do you have a link to that on the web? > Against using a clear text search or the index in Info, it sucks really, > really, really bad. Part of the problem is that followup > searches/refinements pretty fast end up on some other page. I can't see how that can happen. > Part of the > problem is that, well, searching for something on a huge page that is > actually already loaded works not all that well anyway, but then you may > end up on the split version, too. I do not understand how that relates to what we are talking about here.