From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:06:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvcacs7k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bnmyclpk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ui2ci6r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c061e7e83a6050aaa8599 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419102409 31479 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2014 19:06:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , David Kastrup , Emacs-Devel devel To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 20:06:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2PMP-0002QD-Sh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:06:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2PMO-0006zx-VJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:06:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42913) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2PMA-0006zq-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2PMA-00056S-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:06:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:56319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2PM8-00056B-FS; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:06:24 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id bs8so4824838wib.4; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:06:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WWpIDPgcL8rFASIGswnJoXG4TR9bt0ekpcT5x516Mzg=; b=SjO9YveLNEKNVXu2y7xh14oTSENsJb1Qb28iVu+fJtIJcGpT9DOJxrWgnsTFKVTPUs itCjS8b1FfR3vJgPjFCMUn8uRn+XB1aKY6CFAcW/3vShtbnjM3gOhvCJqT9EBBlcuGSE PKTPoTI7HOPMf6W5XwQeyKQTVcISP9V9fIg6V0U0YULOIb8R5p33kPObToWEOmGitag1 lvVtW7uB2y3N/BMcUSE2r94kw1Uh8r6fBl3Hn6MprMd8gk0rkEEWoDYWyr/lkg4t/p+e auopFo6WjM+6rFGyEHZhNU3pczsqIc+YRD9rOtU5scRWRacgtZ1afJHwRymnE9sk0KQF WofQ== X-Received: by 10.180.104.9 with SMTP id ga9mr17090070wib.9.1419102383930; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:06:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:06:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.93.228 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:06:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878ui2ci6r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180400 Archived-At: --f46d043c061e7e83a6050aaa8599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 20, 2014 7:03 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > Lennart Borgman writes: > > On Dec 20, 2014 5:47 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > > There is AddEventlistener, XMLHttpRequest, etc. > > Sure, but those are ancient Ecmascript and/or DOM features > (XMLHttpRequest is about 10 years old), not something added in HTML5 > vs. earlier versions of HTML.[1] As far as I can see, nothing has > changed: Actually I am not sure about the changes in the standard. I notice however things just work now. They did not really do that before (without those famous libraries, like jQuery). However there are still flaws. At the moment I just target Google Chrome. --f46d043c061e7e83a6050aaa8599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Dec 20, 2014 7:03 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <= ;stephen@xemacs.org> wrote: >
> Lennart Borgman writes:
> =C2=A0> On Dec 20, 2014 5:47 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" &l= t;stephen@xemacs.org> wrote: >
> =C2=A0> There is AddEventlistener, XMLHttpRequest, etc.
>
> Sure, but those are ancient Ecmascript and/or DOM features
> (XMLHttpRequest is about 10 years old), not something added in HTML5 > vs. earlier versions of HTML.[1]=C2=A0 As far as I can see, nothing ha= s
> changed:

Actually I am not sure about the changes in the standard. I = notice however things just work now. They did not really do that before (wi= thout those famous libraries, like jQuery).

However there are still flaws. At the moment I just target G= oogle Chrome.

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