From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA mode??? Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:38:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <87vbxzy3m4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ha9jeduw.fsf_-_@slice.rozzin.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37c10a36f5504ef2d87a6 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388878739 562 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 23:38:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Joshua Judson Rosen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 00:39:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzao1-0006SC-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:39:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzao1-0000GC-E9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzanx-0000G4-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:38:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzanw-0005cr-Ir for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:38:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]:52468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzanw-0005cl-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:38:56 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id t61so14770781wes.11 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:38:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Z8ziPYt//SvOPSpWrkwq5mPy0lPSFwoFhn7kl75JTz8=; b=LcrWUQCOhixB3IEDbZsDhYcXu6wJGTpEY9fVNAx2rSWxFKi4nZKEF8is+0s7FnJkQU PR4b7P9hRBmeKvJzPDtSqTNnzyyNBsJ0hWCDECyUuvUZ4q3r2oJxea5tL7PW01+qBpUE pW5ddNFGh2KhzRVyXLM4jjCpOtYhUa6q+KpDnQk3YQ8mbNIHFHAKdWKyO/IeIIs2SCGT p8iCA9uHWS5eeLyugcCwvGkddPbeL9dp5BkOYUlLRZXRhPqVZVN+oyBaHa4/fuol2a78 LTD8Hd0jpGF6prwuvh5Ct5uO6pkSzrrAsTLlYiIjCmYDMiHvpit3BAH1W4ECiyEHiIun pCdg== X-Received: by 10.180.206.11 with SMTP id lk11mr6978459wic.16.1388878735042; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:38:55 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.194.216.227 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ha9jeduw.fsf_-_@slice.rozzin.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167337 Archived-At: --001a11c37c10a36f5504ef2d87a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Jan 4, 2014 9:17 PM, "Joshua Judson Rosen" wrote: > > > Also, didn't cua-mode already `fix' this: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA-Bindings.html > > Though that brings me to something that's been bugging me since someone > first told me (last year) that cua-mode had actually gone into emacs: > my recollection from the early 1990s was that the CUA keystrokes for > cut, copy, and paste were *not* C-x, C-c, and C-v; but rather > S-delete, C-insert, and S-insert (respectively). These were the > keystrokes that I remember using in Windows at the time, and > what I've also been using in Emacs and other applications in X11 > since about that time, and even what I used in applications on > Mac OS X when I needed to use it just a couple of years ago. > > Wikipedia seems to agree with my memory rather than what's in the Emacs > manual: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access > > Did the CUA spec actually change to use C-x, C-c, C-v at some point, or > is Emacs cua-mode mistaken about which standard it's implementing? Ah, so you mean that cua-mode was also badly named in Emacs in should be renamed? ;-) --001a11c37c10a36f5504ef2d87a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Jan 4, 2014 9:17 PM, "Joshua Judson= Rosen" <rozzin@geekspace.com>= wrote:
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> Also, didn't cua-mode already `fix' this:
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/softwar= e/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA-Bindings.html
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> Though that brings me to something that's been bugging me since so= meone
> first told me (last year) that cua-mode had actually gone into emacs:<= br> > my recollection from the early 1990s was that the CUA keystrokes for > cut, copy, and paste were *not* C-x, C-c, and C-v; but rather
> S-delete, C-insert, and S-insert (respectively). These were the
> keystrokes that I remember using in Windows at the time, and
> what I've also been using in Emacs and other applications in X11 > since about that time, and even what I used in applications on
> Mac OS X when I needed to use it just a couple of years ago.
>
> Wikipedia seems to agree with my memory rather than what's in the = Emacs
> manual:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access=
>
> Did the CUA spec actually change to use C-x, C-c, C-v at some point, o= r
> is Emacs cua-mode mistaken about which standard it's implementing?=

Ah, so you mean that cua-mode was also badly named in Emacs in shoul= d be renamed? ;-)

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