From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ELPA and core services
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:40:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANbX3640y0N=BqscpQtoUooXWDbuzXGGdF-3UgkvXgNjU95RGA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27guw76t3.fsf_-_@gmail.com>
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:12 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Christopher Schmidt <christopher@ch.ristopher.com> writes:
>
>> I do not agree with GNU ELPA not being applicable for core services. I
>> think every single package that is not absolutely necessary for running a
>> bare Emacs should be moved to GNU ELPA.
>
> Please, please no. I use lots of Emacsen on lots of machines, and only a few
> have my configuration copied over. Please don't turn unconfigured Emacsen
> into brain-dead zombies of little value. I rely on the fact that Eshell
> exists on every Windows machine that has Emacs. And not all of these have a
> network connection for me to even use ELPA, if that company's web proxy would
> even allow it.
>
> I think you may be considering this issue only from the
> single-power-user-with-net-access point of view.
>
>> On top of that, IMO every single core package should have a copy on GNU ELPA
>> so one can to overwrite the native GNU Emacs one with the one from GNU ELPA.
>> This would decouple all packages from the Emacs release cycle and allow bug
>> fixes to be distributed instantly.
>
> Now, this I agree with completely. ELPA overrides is a great idea, and I
> think it could accelerate development -- as long as inter-package version
> dependencies are managed. If the newest Gnus suddenly depends on the the
> newest something-else, that something-else should be installed/updated along
> with it automatically.
I agree with John on both points here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-24 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <m2hau86tfk.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
[not found] ` <E1ShM8F-0006IY-L9@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <m2txy51z1k.fsf@newartisans.com>
[not found] ` <E1ShiKM-0000Aa-5G@fencepost.gnu.org>
2012-06-21 21:23 ` async 1.0 John Wiegley
2012-06-22 7:00 ` Teemu Likonen
2012-06-22 10:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 12:39 ` Michael Albinus
2012-06-22 22:02 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-04 17:10 ` Samuel Bronson
2012-07-05 4:09 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-05 19:58 ` Samuel Bronson
[not found] ` <82d34r8ej9.fsf@gmail.com>
2012-06-22 21:50 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23 1:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23 16:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-06-23 21:08 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23 21:28 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-06-23 21:50 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-06-24 15:02 ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-24 15:42 ` Bastien
2012-06-24 21:01 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-25 14:53 ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-25 23:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-24 21:12 ` ELPA and core services John Wiegley
2012-06-24 21:40 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2012-06-25 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-25 4:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-25 6:01 ` Achim Gratz
2012-07-03 14:38 ` Tom Tromey
2013-01-22 19:13 ` Achim Gratz
2012-06-25 4:32 ` stdlib for Emacs? [was: async 1.0] Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23 6:25 ` async 1.0 Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23 21:05 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-01 8:16 ` Michael Sperber
2012-06-22 11:38 ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-22 21:39 ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 23:02 ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-23 7:46 ` zwz
2012-06-23 20:49 ` Richard Stallman
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