From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Require "this program is free software .... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267055 Archived-At: --000000000000af684605be675abe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I am not sure this is best. I would prefer "Freedom-respecting software" somewhere on the home buffer, to attract people to the cause of free software. On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 3:03 AM Jean Louis wrote: > * James Lu [2021-02-13 00:12]: > > Some distributions of Emacs, such as Spacemacs, replace Emacs' splash > > screen with one that heeds no mention to free software. (Spacemacs > includes > > a logo of Spacemacs, a bunch of menu items, and a changelog.) > > > > In order to avoid another fiasco of the sort of the GNU/Linux > controversy, > > where a variant of GNU software was called something else and > disassociated > > from free software, I propose we exercise section 7.4 of GPLv3 to require > > "require preservation of specified reasonable legal notices or author > > attributions in that material or in the Appropriate Legal Notices > displayed > > by works containing it" > > Maintainer and author of Spacemacs has understood your proposal and > have changed all files to include GPL3 as how it is specified in the > license, included LICENSE file in the distribution and is now changing > the splash screen to include copying conditions. > > See: > https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/pull/14552 > > syl20bnr commented 3 hours ago > > Should fix #14444 > > Added the LICENSE file. > Added GPLv3 terms explicitly to each elisp file > Updated the years to 2021 > Cherry on the cake, added the GPLv3 logo to the README file: > > And wishes to add button on the main screen pointing to copying > conditions. > > I wish best for increasing Emacs user number through Spacemacs and We > hope for creation of more free software and better understanding with > help of Spacemacs developers! > > Jean > > --000000000000af684605be675abe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am not sure this is bes= t.

I would prefer "Freedom-respecting software" somewhere o= n the
home buffer, to attract people = to the cause of free software.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 3:03 AM Jean Lo= uis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* James Lu <jamtlu@gmail.com> [2021-02-13 00:12]:
> Some distributions of Emacs, such as Spacemacs, replace Emacs' spl= ash
> screen with one that heeds no mention to free software. (Spacemacs inc= ludes
> a logo of Spacemacs, a bunch of menu items, and a changelog.)
>
> In order to avoid another fiasco of the sort of the GNU/Linux controve= rsy,
> where a variant of GNU software was called something else and disassoc= iated
> from free software, I propose we exercise section 7.4 of GPLv3 to requ= ire
> "require preservation of specified reasonable legal notices or au= thor
> attributions in that material or in the Appropriate Legal Notices disp= layed
> by works containing it"

Maintainer and author of Spacemacs has understood your proposal and
have changed all files to include GPL3 as how it is specified in the
license, included LICENSE file in the distribution and is now changing
the splash screen to include copying conditions.

See:
https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/pull/14552=

=C2=A0syl20bnr commented 3 hours ago

Should fix #14444

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Added the LICENSE file.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Added GPLv3 terms explicitly to each elisp file
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Updated the years to 2021
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cherry on the cake, added the GPLv3 logo to the README file:<= br>
And wishes to add button on the main screen pointing to copying
conditions.

I wish best for increasing Emacs user number through Spacemacs and We
hope for creation of more free software and better understanding with
help of Spacemacs developers!

Jean

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