From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Require "this program is free software .... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264869 Archived-At: --00000000000003ad1f05bb6d732e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I personally became a free software activist through one of these "This program is free software, see gnu.org..." notices, so I think it's very important we preserve these: to spread the good word of free software, which is what Emacs was made to do. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 12:19 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > In order to avoid another fiasco of the sort of the GNU/Linux > > > controversy, where a variant of GNU software was called something > else > > > and disassociated from free software, > > To what do you refer exactly here? I don't recall anything like this > > ever happening, but your terse description may not help my memory. > > I think Lu was referring to the widespread misnomer of "Linux system" > when referring to a variant of the GNU system which has Linux as the > kernel. See https://gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html and > https://gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html. > > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > > --00000000000003ad1f05bb6d732e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I personally became a free software activist through one = of these "This program is free software, see gnu.org..." notices,= so I think it's very important we preserve these: to spread the good w= ord of free software, which is what Emacs was made to do.

On Tue, Feb 16, 20= 21, 12:19 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.or= g> wrote:
[[[ To any NSA and= FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
=C2=A0 > > In order to avoid another fiasco of the sort of the GNU/Li= nux
=C2=A0 > > controversy, where a variant of GNU software was called so= mething else
=C2=A0 > > and disassociated from free software,
=C2=A0 > To what do you refer exactly here? I don't recall anything = like this
=C2=A0 > ever happening, but your terse description may not help my memo= ry.

I think Lu was referring to the widespread misnomer of "Linux system&q= uot;
when referring to a variant of the GNU system which has Linux as the
kernel.=C2=A0 See https://gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu= .html and
https://gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html.


--
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)=



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