From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256459 Archived-At: --00000000000001399a05b037b9a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have read several gnu.org articles. On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:47 AM Pankaj Jangid wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26 2020, James Lu wrote: > > > I am a new (2020 started) Emacs user. > > This is evident from your email. Perhaps you should read about "the GNU > project" > > > Sell customer support packages, so 1) You can focus on gaining users = > > giving more users computer user freedom and user empowerment. 2) You can > > better understand the problems with Emacs' documentation and user > interface > > because people will email you support questions on them, incentivizing > you > > to reduce how many support queries are needed. > > User experience testing. a la Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug. > > Path dependence-- sequence points matter. > > https://kwokchain.com/2020/06/19/why-figma-wins/ > > Emacs Inc. ;-) > > --00000000000001399a05b037b9a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have r= ead several gnu.org articles.

On Sa= t, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:47 AM Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 26 2020, James Lu wrote:

> I am a new (2020 started) Emacs user.

This is evident from your email. Perhaps you should read about "the GN= U
project"

> Sell customer support packages, so 1) You can focus on gaining users = =3D
> giving more users computer user freedom and user empowerment. 2) You c= an
> better understand the problems with Emacs' documentation and user = interface
> because people will email you support questions on them, incentivizing= you
> to reduce how many support queries are needed.
> User experience testing. a la Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug. > Path dependence-- sequence points matter.
> https://kwokchain.com/2020/06/19/why-figma-wins= /

Emacs Inc. ;-)

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