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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323328 Archived-At: --000000000000d1659f0621377c90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yuan Fu wrote about fontsets on his blog and this article might be helpful: https://archive.casouri.cc/note/2021/fontset/ On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:19=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Soham Gumaste > > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:49:41 -0500 > > > > Recently I got too curious for my own good while messing with emacs > > (as one does) and discovered fontsets and transparent usage of > > multiple fonts for different unicode points/scripts/ranges. > > > > I discovered this [1] reply by Eli about *not* messing with creating > > your own fontset and rather just using the default "fontset-default". > > I wrote that for the case that the user wants to customize the fonts > Emacs choses for different scripts. In that case, customizing the > default font is the best alternative. > > > I did notice I am unable to set my own fontset as the default or the > > one in use as given by the frame-parameter 'font. > > If you tried to use the fontset you created as the 'font' parameter of > a frame, please show the simplest test case to reproduce this > (preferably as a bug report), and let's take it from there. It should > work, but without knowing what you tried and how it failed, it is > impossible to answer your questions intelligently. > > > How do I learn more about emacs fontsets? > > It depends on what you want to learn. Assuming you already read what > we have about fontsets in the Emacs user manual and in the ELisp > reference manual, further info is only in the sources, I'm afraid. > > > Is support for user defined > > fontsets something thats in the works, or is it just an internal API? > > It is a working API that should just work. > > > The reply in [1] is around 6y old which is why I am curious about the > > current state of this. A use-case I have in mind is switching to a > > non-programmer fontset for presenting Org mode documents with > > org-present. > > Fontsets were added to Emacs a long time ago, much longer than 6 > years, so I don't think there were any significant changes. > > --000000000000d1659f0621377c90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yuan Fu wrote about fontsets on his blog and this article might be helpf= ul:

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https://archive.casouri.= cc/note/2021/fontset/

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:19=E2=80=AFAM E= li Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote= :
> From: Soh= am Gumaste <soham= g2@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 15:49:41 -0500
>
> Recently I got too curious for my own good while messing with emacs > (as one does) and discovered fontsets and transparent usage of
> multiple fonts for different unicode points/scripts/ranges.
>
> I discovered this [1] reply by Eli about *not* messing with creating > your own fontset and rather just using the default "fontset-defau= lt".

I wrote that for the case that the user wants to customize the fonts
Emacs choses for different scripts.=C2=A0 In that case, customizing the
default font is the best alternative.

> I did notice I am unable to set my own fontset as the default or the > one in use as given by the frame-parameter 'font.

If you tried to use the fontset you created as the 'font' parameter= of
a frame, please show the simplest test case to reproduce this
(preferably as a bug report), and let's take it from there.=C2=A0 It sh= ould
work, but without knowing what you tried and how it failed, it is
impossible to answer your questions intelligently.

> How do I learn more about emacs fontsets?

It depends on what you want to learn.=C2=A0 Assuming you already read what<= br> we have about fontsets in the Emacs user manual and in the ELisp
reference manual, further info is only in the sources, I'm afraid.

> Is support for user defined
> fontsets something thats in the works, or is it just an internal API?<= br>
It is a working API that should just work.

> The reply in [1] is around 6y old which is why I am curious about the<= br> > current state of this. A use-case I have in mind is switching to a
> non-programmer fontset for presenting Org mode documents with
> org-present.

Fontsets were added to Emacs a long time ago, much longer than 6
years, so I don't think there were any significant changes.

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