From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Vicente Vera Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-26: `with-eval-after-load' docstring omission Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 15:06:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520089504 8806 195.159.176.226 (3 Mar 2018 15:05:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 15:05:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 03 16:05:00 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es8iX-0001RJ-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 16:04:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40578 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es8ka-0007kE-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60589) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es8jw-0007js-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:06:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es8jv-0007Uh-Vs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:06:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ot0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::232]:47089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es8jv-0007U1-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:06:23 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ot0-x232.google.com with SMTP id g97so11300405otg.13 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 07:06:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HVr78LiuPvj8iFp11NDZglGpejSKYleMeqOFWT63j8s=; b=ZsuodJqftwgYQ/mDvbTVnUFRngG1uKtYX9vUniThO3JcERh1uXTc6K42NT6OX3xtX5 zidP8Pj7KsCyAtrncdv+KeTP7gqmRGlcBsoWs5auVlJ54K2CPQ8ROwBzTViYSI0trGvG 72+RCBDe80n72gvDNdt4bx6zRPkyPfrw7UjzffWXcVmXBGHZ8v7Z1JBmc2cz+mV8Szt6 Vy6DInVBOiEQOf/n3YDLNspn2x4TmAcYNt/dNk3W4ulHAzqpzej/yR8ipiGrdHZy7e/O p6eQbDYh9GxfCKG/1XGfBeEZvJx0LS2CrTRexXQUwvnnUBPi2xPlnMlTGaX4XR0E24FP JeZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HVr78LiuPvj8iFp11NDZglGpejSKYleMeqOFWT63j8s=; b=Fx+nwjy6B1gQV78tn9MJ+WPkRdS9Qg/bolzqydqkyk4qty3KKhXdSkzmCDc8iw5DuW vKTEOOwJWxYwqAggntVKETrdPYrQFIt17/vGbc6CmS4l524qPmODoz49A0a1kSNXCoBR QTVBuHB/1ZlJU1fbcJYGnNKwCVaCsMc3vbDMNu8fqIu95JaUEd1Gsz7M7DqfSXjflUnh ddMMtNWZuszDYkcWhjhwWAph3yTcMMlyZ+xDKgxB5qfJJd11dEv/2NsimPXnWvmEVix7 KprnNfdOK/0zxx60jean0o7aq/3lIRPgsTv8PY2vvkqOAmim7lBO3ZxF3a/apK1USsVU XhBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7Gfut+8ad4qTQA3mWfV2ZPzNhamtnB++wJL/PrX8e/3+xW+ZyS+ xfQWBYCjuiCv75DDSaPoS5FJp47EcrQ2i8MrwYw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELskUEK9e/JgGaHCaj/GcsegmTClQxg7BMU54mS9Am0dlm/XEeW+y0oJsdWofH/fvqXeXHb8X1EsLMHQUF+cdH8= X-Received: by 10.157.15.206 with SMTP id m14mr6680965otd.337.1520089582494; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 07:06:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.157.66.170 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2018 07:06:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223241 Archived-At: (In reply to Stefan.) No, there is no specific issue involved. Just some harmless and temporary confusion, that's all. After reading =E2=80=98with-eval-after-load=E2=80=99 docstring (which just = says "Execute BODY after FILE is loaded.") I expected that BODY would be executed just like in =E2=80=98eval-after-load=E2=80=99, which by default p= asses forms to =E2=80=98eval=E2=80=99. My argument is that there are implicit behaviours that *might* lead to wrong assumptions. In my case, I had to look at =E2=80=98with-eval-after-lo= ad=E2=80=99 code and re-read =E2=80=98eval-after-load=E2=80=99 docstring to clearly und= erstand the differences. 2018-02-23 13:42 GMT+00:00 Vicente Vera : > Hello. > > Currently, =E2=80=98with-eval-after-load=E2=80=99 docstring doesn't menti= on that BODY > is executed as a lambda expression through funcall. The docstrings > refers to =E2=80=98eval-after-load=E2=80=99 regarding the FILE argument, = but not how > BODY is executed.