From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lynn Winebarger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make all tree-sitter modes optional Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83o7rexe2n.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6x5xym7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6wr6gmz.fsf@gnu.org> <868ri140sr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fsc92gbz.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz6ccagy.fsf@gnu.org> <838rgzaqmj.fsf@gnu.org> <7bad77ae-a176-d49b-5115-dbadf7e6d1bc@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29212"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 16 00:49:55 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pSRX9-0007OU-MK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2023 00:49:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSRWO-0004J1-Pb; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:49:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSRWN-0004It-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x102d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102d]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSRWL-0004qk-84; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x102d.google.com with SMTP id bg2so198809pjb.4; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:49:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=993Rxm08qEPi48sVymsVo8nY9e9asK7UnScDS6xpEWQ=; b=IF9th5gplxYhBDXM2uSCnUR+0kCZVpNrc3gclNrjoas2ciETiaSgeDi2V49datocsz cODohf9IAc+PgeVwyfOb2UiTCevhUC/wYwCxdfAE6KdulI8c81NsSFG+wVPBWeQBplEB mclt7089Vm8s1E/XbLWa8a6moakDORDX/Wc4bZNZxRZiJ5ACqeRza9e7MX4PfYj4wEZN j0LqguhOBNGFCEgHQajrbgqWCz8qV+2px4q6Co6zbdrRzbut3FtsyOWzEfqoWbd3zKSW i7wIDY5JDQyVxEgKdA5jJzR0VD+J55h3wlviNEqwwAkti40FDiYtQriOV0Mqx+n73ORC JP3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=993Rxm08qEPi48sVymsVo8nY9e9asK7UnScDS6xpEWQ=; b=mrlUIcsayRELp3mn6FSh+xitTIJ4h21VrLbJovHuynTZlhAFMtma1mYDGLAhSfjLHz F3hhl/7na5qHZdvJDog5ZEXw0ptBV4+hB+aDuZP4IvE1oy5J0JIJvxz+6kUpyVxa+KrC hKLx7tZw3chepz4srLUY8BcZstd/mdXquSH1PJxuNv8qlTqjpwqeovAcHl7TfRE/lU3b b6wDxoYIDfk5AeI50gqp00oup+WK5DMa6Mim/733NtFNzaS/jSvBnenk/G8JC4Cw0bs2 Z46HUb9Eh/X5ac5OwxmRfvBpjzRXZvEMXGSj3Wcngj+C3stDIQ42i35e1kiVE21uCx/E 3Pug== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVXD7xcIjmGJJiocszdQg6RL+B2M5zc2IqI1xgBpz1RGgIoawZH qdAPnYNeK5gO1/yQ9eIJIFDv6Pu7vSMnaM3FXbM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9NRR3dVaFUALfHNkLEd82W9yfDG5JLR/aFF+Q8La3L8ef29xBRKlecj67pwkvKUyQruyKqR3yTkZNqMIVOa0w= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:2784:b0:232:ce4d:8da8 with SMTP id pw4-20020a17090b278400b00232ce4d8da8mr32638pjb.143.1676504942117; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:49:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102d; envelope-from=owinebar@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303356 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 2:27 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > We should never recommend (require ) as a way to change Emacs's > behavior, since it directly conflicts with our convention that loading > a file should not significantly alter Emacs's behavior. As someone who preloads the (elisp) world, I'd love to see this maxim enshrined somewhere.