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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293504 Archived-At: On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 4:59 AM Andrea Corallo wrote: > > Stefan Monnier writes: > > >>>> Could it be possible to embed C snippets into lisp functions directly? > >>>> Similar to assembler snippets in C. > >>> > >>> Andrea is better placed to answer that, but I think it would be fairly > >>> easy to allow insertion of "C-like" snippets when the code gets compiled > >>> with the native compiler. > > I was thinking of a C-like DSL (probably with a Lisp-style syntax). > > Designed to be easy to translate to libgccir as well as not too hard > > to interpret when libgccjit is not available. > > Yep that's an option, I thought about that as well, not sure how much > practical it is tho. One of the downside is that we could not consume > nor provide any of the existing C header files. Ugh. Why not inline LAP blocks? Lynn