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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Regression in dump-emacs-portable
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:44:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM=F=bBW=bye4zrppUue8SYGJsJbsN_UBQSbt1kVBegYC5aMQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bkls1hzn.fsf@gnu.org>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 9:31 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> I don't understand what will this solve.  Why does it matter when
> exactly is a variable initialized, if in any case that will happen
> before re-dumping?

You're right with respect to the current definitions of
custom-initialize-* functions that will only set variables if they are
unbound.
The docstring for custom-initialize-delay is:
  "Delay initialization of SYMBOL to the next Emacs start.
This is used in files that are preloaded (or for autoloaded
variables), so that the initialization is done in the run-time
context rather than the build-time context.  This also has the
side-effect that the (delayed) initialization is performed with
the :set function."
But "so the initialization is done in the run-time context" and "to
the *next* Emacs start" (emphasis mine) are contradictory unless
dumping can only happen once.    The first sentence should be "Ensure
SYMBOL is set to initial-value at Emacs startup".  Otherwise, the
"initialization" will only reflect the value of the customization when
it was first set, regardless of whether that value reflects the
*current* run-time context due to redumping.  In particular, currently
redumping has to happen in a noninteractive context, so redumping of a
customization with an initialization expression referencing the value
of 'noninteractive will not be correct when it is later used in an
interactive session.  Also, any customization variables introduced
after a redump that are supposed to be initialized by
#'custom-initialize-delay will not be initialized on the next startup,
since custom-delayed-init-variables is already set to t in the dump.
The current implementation only works for customization variables
defined in the initial dump.
I'll take a shot at a more thorough rewrite of the customization
system to properly support redumping this weekend and send another
patch.

Lynn



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-13  0:51 Regression in dump-emacs-portable Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-14  1:13 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-14 14:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 23:26     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-15 12:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16  9:31         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-16  9:54           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-16 15:05             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-16 15:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 23:45                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17 13:22                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17 14:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 23:44                       ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2023-02-18  7:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 14:21                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-23  2:41                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-23 13:21                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-16 15:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17  1:29             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17  3:19               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17  4:10               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-17  5:21                 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 12:57                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-23 15:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-23 22:32   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-25  4:11     ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-25  4:11     ` Richard Stallman

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