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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307093 Archived-At: --000000000000eb486b05fe9232f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 12:15 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > The only single > > "big move" that is theoretically possible is just move Emacs to a Gitlab > > instance, which will remove necessity to care of any docs because > finding a > > developer who doesn't know how git-forges work is unlikely. But I *do > not* > > suggest doing that because I know many long-timers would not want that. > So > > instead I am trying to bite at different pieces that could be improved > without > > affecting existing workflow. This docs discussion is just one small > piece. > > We considered Gitlab, and also a couple of other alternatives. They > all had problems that needed to be solved first, and no one stepped > forward or succeeded to do that. You can find all this in the > archives, including our minimum requirements to any such > workflow/framework > Have the problems with the search interface for the mailing list archive been fixed? Unless you meant some other archives, that seems problematic. Lynn --000000000000eb486b05fe9232f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 12:15 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> The only single
> "big move" that is theoretically possible is just move Emacs= to a Gitlab
> instance, which will remove necessity to care of any docs because find= ing a
> developer who doesn't know how git-forges work is unlikely. But I = *do not*
> suggest doing that because I know many long-timers would not want that= . So
> instead I am trying to bite at different pieces that could be improved= without
> affecting existing workflow. This docs discussion is just one small pi= ece.

We considered Gitlab, and also a couple of other alternatives.=C2=A0 They all had problems that needed to be solved first, and no one stepped
forward or succeeded to do that.=C2=A0 You can find all this in the
archives, including our minimum requirements to any such
workflow/framework

=
Have the problems with the search interface for the maili= ng list archive been fixed?=C2=A0 Unless you meant some other archives, tha= t seems problematic.

Lyn= n

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