From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Hyatt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 4K Bugs Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2016 04:21:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <8737u9kv6f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <878u40ibuu.fsf@gmx.de> <877fjkb41b.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87y4c0gpqx.fsf@gmx.de> <87io349na6.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143e3dc75e9220528df0ac9 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452313313 14720 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2016 04:21:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 04:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord , Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 05:21:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aHl2D-0003Ye-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 05:21:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38950 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHl2C-00068n-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:21:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39489) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHl28-00068V-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:21:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHl26-00069u-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]:36808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHl26-00069a-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id n1so47502268vkb.3 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 20:21:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=/e39o/6hVigXOnAl/oX3UNTfB7xYeyhw5T5X8zzVJkc=; b=Um+Qsg5gw5lVjY0+YEBR6P2wT4Y1m2+s5naj5XoVW0hFmRnCskXMj/3vrtdDilEX3X etvtr2fRWA2GYsOR0h9L0yASO0bNWLgn1uOVrfB1VHlmiFWzlOuQFmaFIs0ZpKHKERYE dx+DXirBPD54wQ9IUJtQKekDtnqkXP+2JxfFSke233nePXyhvwxeOrBkpkHxgqtkLpGz KeqW+FQ9VDEEcw1Ajfd1rsWGb73/i2XZNc6sWDnVn8bWW304HPPOZLjRCxM7aI/mAvGI dV1DmRft8xb41bSibc2vl0ruRVitzmhajyt+A8wyeqHL+XMqyrKPchg7L8Y7mBxjUDgP MO4Q== X-Received: by 10.31.172.135 with SMTP id v129mr58963587vke.154.1452313301868; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 20:21:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87io349na6.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197883 Archived-At: --001a1143e3dc75e9220528df0ac9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:08 AM Phillip Lord wrote: > Michael Albinus writes: > > > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > > > >>> `debbugs-emacs' would be misleading, because http://debbugs.gnu.org is > >>> also the bug tracker for other GNU projects. > >> > >> Yeah. But if I type M-x debbugs-gnu, I just get emacs bugs right? > > > > Emacs is the default package. You can change this by customizing > > `debbugs-gnu-default-packages'. Or you call interactively > > "C-u M-x debbugs-gnu". > > > > (For all what I claim here: pls blame me if it isn't documented in the > > User Guide) > > I would add a shorter "debbugs". I would be intereted to know how many > enter via "-org" and how many via "-gnu". > FWIW, I found debbugs-org to be a bit buggy after I entered control messages for what I thought was the bug under the cursor only to find it sent control messages to a completely different bug. I'll... uh... file a bug on it or perhaps just fix it once I can reproduce it again. > > > > >> One document which I think is missing is a "what all the tags" mean. > > > > I believe it is covered in the User Guide. If not sufficient, ask for > > clarification. > > invalid? Different from notabug, wontfix, unreproducible? > > pending? Pending what? Different from moreinfo? > > patch? It includes one? Covers a bug report with a pull request? > > And important, minor, normal, serious, wishlist. Is serious more > important than important? Or Important more serious than serious? What > criterion? > Pretty sure it must go, in order of decreasing severity: serious, important, normal. Serious probably is reserved for things like emacs crashing bugs, security vulnerabilities and the like. I don't know whether there is a rule about this, but I'd guess that new emacs versions shouldn't be released if any serious bugs are opened against it. Important is a bit unknown to me, I'm guessing just a bit scarier than the "normal" bugs. > > security? valid only for bugs? or wishlists, RFE also? > Great questions, and once someone sheds light on the things like invalid and pending (I have no clue, personally), I'll write up the info in the bug-triage file. > > Phil > > --001a1143e3dc75e9220528df0ac9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jan 8,= 2016 at 9:08 AM Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> wrote:
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> philli= p.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes:
>
>>> `debbugs-emacs' would be misleading, because http://debbugs.g= nu.org is
>>> also the bug tracker for other GNU projects.
>>
>> Yeah. But if I type M-x debbugs-gnu, I just get emacs bugs right?<= br> >
> Emacs is the default package. You can change this by customizing
> `debbugs-gnu-default-packages'. Or you call interactively
> "C-u M-x debbugs-gnu".
>
> (For all what I claim here: pls blame me if it isn't documented in= the
> User Guide)

I would add a shorter "debbugs". I would be intereted to know how= many
enter via "-org" and how many via "-gnu".

FWIW, I found debbugs-org to be a bit buggy after I = entered control messages for what I thought was the bug under the cursor on= ly to find it sent control messages to a completely different bug.=C2=A0 I&= #39;ll... uh... file a bug on it or perhaps just fix it once I can reproduc= e it again.=C2=A0



>> One document which I think is missing is a "what all the tags= " mean.
>
> I believe it is covered in the User Guide. If not sufficient, ask for<= br> > clarification.

invalid? Different from notabug, wontfix, unreproducible?

pending? Pending what? Different from moreinfo?

patch? It includes one? Covers a bug report with a pull request?

And important, minor, normal, serious, wishlist. Is serious more
important than important? Or Important more serious than serious? What
criterion?

Pretty sure it must go, in o= rder of decreasing severity: serious, important, normal.=C2=A0 Serious prob= ably is reserved for things like emacs crashing bugs, security vulnerabilit= ies and the like.=C2=A0 I don't know whether there is a rule about this= , but I'd guess that new emacs versions shouldn't be released if an= y serious bugs are opened against it.=C2=A0 Important is a bit unknown to m= e, I'm guessing just a bit scarier than the "normal" bugs. = =C2=A0
=C2=A0

security? valid only for bugs? or wishlists, RFE also?
=C2=A0
Great questions, and once someone sheds light on the thin= gs like invalid and pending (I have no clue, personally), I'll write up= the info in the bug-triage file.
=C2=A0

Phil

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