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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253012 Archived-At: On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 07:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > From: Dmitry Gutov > > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 13:53:35 +0300 > > > > It shouldn't come as a surprise that I think there is no better > > technological choice. Otherwise I would have used it. > > ??? You are saying that the _only_ way to design project.el is to use > generics at that high level? That sounds like a bit of a misreading: Dmitry didn't say "_only_ way", he said "there is no better" way.