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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235333 Archived-At: On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 03:04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Noam Postavsky > > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:03:28 -0400 > > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier , > > Emacs developers > > > > > > Though perhaps there is some fuzziness in CONTRIBUTE over the exact > > > > meaning of "is in the very last stages of its pretest". > > > > > > If someone can suggest a better way of saying that, please do. The > > > text does say soon afterwards "if you are unsure, ask". > > > > Maybe it helps to spell out a number? > > I'd hesitate to fix the number at 90 (or any other specific number), > because sometimes .90 is not close enough. We could say .100, but > AFAIR that happened only once or twice in the history, so it would not > be helpful. The problem here is that the number is not determined by > how close we think we are to the release, its correlation with that is > very weak. Yes, the only way to know is to follow emacs-devel, so for someone who doesn't follow the list, asking at anything above .90 is the only safe recommendation, right?