From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the Emacs "nonportable dumper" catastrophe? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:54:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <837e6g3mln.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="67819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: noloader@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 13 14:55:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i8l6o-000HVU-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:55:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43516 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i8l6m-0004dI-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i8l6d-0004cu-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i8l6c-000654-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:55:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]:36484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i8l6T-00062Q-Kl; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id k20so2115113oih.3; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ByFz4kg5fJMKVBtuFT+5AHbVFRKrnWwR0ZYVaCN9oog=; b=ABwQ8qaQEZsBu1cdsdRTr+N76GX/Aul9aTSYKaneQaZy6Yagx/ciKvDJxJTvdwC6Cv TBCl0B64WB+ovX4Ru9XE9Vs0NRR4Oi1UschHa/LkQH9TBgd+7byosdaDA7k61IFG5tbp z91F9J5CttEur5UQ1lO299mr0dTbBG5h5oFgUJglGSSPM0GdOrraePtCnuVjgUpNnzBH aigiDkRk/1dnt8XufIZ701xNvjDAd3qiSdobF+mjRggM3DDL5Mqaxaqp7yP/Bl88BBLW CPOYnE1HD81Bwcmklr67KLIRntgmOrTMKs5us6hzdEwQn8CMJKmVWe9FMc66ITGNmdNk steQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ByFz4kg5fJMKVBtuFT+5AHbVFRKrnWwR0ZYVaCN9oog=; b=cBNPNVMCMsPFdcJxpduNCbWcg9xpN5jHsaRdpkeGI4oCvOYKhClzQP5M9BOLjaACWU sfY9Q9pqyqMBXIm/imTdN7knr85QjsBvk7qg/CmifLTuMir8MpAxO+uqPHkx/CLOV17r 6qU8MBEvJ4aubOhWAiXK6k9c0V0IGWcojQaOcIazT6s2f6BYO9Bhht/Xtj4IJAlTjKwz chn701ux8qBNEz3j4HPjwLAjF2GVvBGyLYJ2vjpI/P3ZlXLKEWPDy0jh0+15bhVDFoaS y0ASn2teUtLWBKDdwgQbrevhSnzLJEt+V3rW46JnD/XAmyC6T5Tr6L/qSMjAhC1BUYTP YLEw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX+qBG7N7LG9DmVx7BXAL65TZ0GUgB+Cvz5u/hzCRDrOZe5bTiZ ugnkh2xBqU3OeX+juMcyI7StfNrL7nwIWoHobJI0N6/w X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwd8ik0RXmkobW4XtcoY5GDGN2t/RVnX632s7TnJcP1fOg9hSf48pw8IaC1PHivkTBhdZ+AxNd3hXmNWq/65jU= X-Received: by 2002:aca:fc91:: with SMTP id a139mr2873378oii.173.1568379308534; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240016 Archived-At: On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 04:16, Richard Stallman wrote: > > The author of the comment prefixed it with "", so I guess they > > might actually agree with you. > > using a plural pronoun for > one person? That is always a confusing practice, so I wish people > would avoid it. See > https://stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html. I know you prefer "per" for this, but I find that much more confusing (because it's already a word which means something else, and (since the reader may assume the non-capitalization is a typo) sometimes a name (short for "Perry", or, per Wikipedia: "a Scandinavian masculine given name")). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_(given_name)