From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving aesthetics & readability of backquote Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 22:22:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20190520085241.GA5136@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="99307"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: "Paul W. Rankin" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 21 04:23:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hSuQk-000Pib-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 04:23:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSuQi-0005tK-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 22:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSuQc-0005tB-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 22:22:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSuQb-000225-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 22:22:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::234]:36268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSuQZ-00020e-Hi; Mon, 20 May 2019 22:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x234.google.com with SMTP id y124so7274168oiy.3; Mon, 20 May 2019 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=q54guCyChXzSBPDKA81qk+65eGBQugA/qsKU9gMiMc0=; b=eDA8uyjzjYBwbom9qsFTR/6LCOu7nh1R7vOQOwl2rxi8YQLqOwp4MKkIcSC1e2+t74 TRNpHkehorvcXGMmdbdN4d4NXTkVT4zKfoCs6GFYlz/AvFMrzbCCwR0dFh1i4tHMzBYh IrUh/gn3j4W07pi66RgAhtMJNQ/H6yxdBa2JgtvrGGLKi0LHI2nSYicAEYfcwZQszeuI 4pJRglBiZywXRPbpUby1viPRvVW/3AHtkQD1Vvabszte1rBIRmCRQHxdhzOiaEW/ov8y 1XfSexwmKWaMuI5Gc1ILM+HjZRvY6vReNSx2USZgzZLK7lbZdUF0GYeBB0kRVwvR9FGO 4bKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=q54guCyChXzSBPDKA81qk+65eGBQugA/qsKU9gMiMc0=; b=SCJIq1LlUoEwnHdXvtEfB9VpKGwSoDnSj/lJArbo69RuLjkDKWNlzdKRxi8UnEdgRe qbx5ifcoZzBfxxsKZXbD2pq6ElZoymqAUVqzp1zuFaYCQgIQFQmdJkuKjHNCJgyokng7 HKx3IryJ5JZC+S1D26osxk6LdRACiaHGgsqXTP0fBeOR/zEXYhnQW6ZHuAEU5cUgnt9h vuUFxek6uTARu/t54VKwloBVWbPWfo2/SP3bQZ9bQ+Pq+sUEhZjBMjeJTRNEx9XrG/q/ sAu3bXEfAx/TrQq8DD2NpGYiCGqGAJ72+4UdWFQ//TtBKH442B7uwMmBkvKjPV6Jp8Dw OaVw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUYd+6lf3TRr7Hz7OI0hJiTI6p1CqXJ2lVVsr1+R/iWCqvqX3If G9TCraSWMHxw6YWh34quPiyV9h8uzTkV83ZvOojy/S6a X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwqLsY6ORHDyHgh+8sSSHqmXFS+MjXYmz7oZoRtIr66r0SSE/KDeVe7xRCZ+Vj1uyctkgI1d5DyZiQYh4q32xg= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5658:: with SMTP id k85mr1653029oib.173.1558405374195; Mon, 20 May 2019 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236834 Archived-At: On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 22:06, Paul W. Rankin wrote: > On Tue, May 21 2019, Richard Stallman wrote: >> Backquote is a well-known construct, a de-facto standard since over >> 40 years ago. > backquote may well be a 40-year-old standard, The standard is about the read syntax; at least, Common Lisp explicitly says it is implementation dependent what the result of (read "`(foo ,bar)") is. For Emacs, that currently gives (\` (foo (\, bar))), I think it would be nicer if it gave (quasiquote (foo (unqote bar)). From what I can tell this has been standard in Scheme since r3rs (1986).