From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Example of threads and concurrency?
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:23:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM-tV-9P+_E_B2-wFAzvkkfG0_q+bON2OSa=vFc5g2LnYdWX-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h93r49wh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Eric Abrahamsen
<eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>> I update the variable with a time-consuming/network-bound
>> computation. I want the computation to happen in a thread so it
>> doesn't block,
You're out of luck, only one thread runs at a time.
>> Is everything in the right place? It just occurs to me that If I put
>> `thread-join' at the bottom of `update-data-in-thread' then it will
>> effectively be synchronous after all! So I put that somewhere else, or I
>> don't call it at all.
Yes (although as I said above, there is no parallelism regardless).
>>
>> Other questions:
>>
>> 1. Other code just has to know that it can't touch
>> `important-data-variable' without holding `important-data-mutex',
>> right?
Yes.
>> 2. I want the timer to signal the thread to give up after ten seconds --
>> do I need to put anything in `update-important-data' that handles
>> that signal?
The thread needs to call something that would yield, otherwise the
cancelling signal call will never have a chance to be sent. The thread
doesn't need to handle the signal (assuming you're fine with just
quitting the thread).
>> 3. What do condition vars actually do? The manual has an example that
>> looks just like what I'm doing above:
>>
>> (with-mutex mutex
>> (setq global-variable (some-computation))
>> (condition-notify cond-var))
>>
>> What is cond-var doing here?
To unblock the other thread that is waiting for it (2 paragraphs up):
(with-mutex mutex
(while (not global-variable)
(condition-wait cond-var)))
>> It seems like both mutexes and cond-vars are there so other code knows
>> when to keep its hands off `important-data-variable', but I don't
>> understand how they're actually used.
They are used to synchronize between threads. But if your thread is
just doing a single computation and then ends, make-thread and
thread-join can be an alternative to them.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-18 19:23 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <87tw81sudh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>
2017-02-18 18:43 ` Example of threads and concurrency? Eric Abrahamsen
2017-02-18 19:23 ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2017-02-18 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-18 19:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-02-18 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-18 20:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-02-19 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-19 19:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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