From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:15:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k2gx4ng3.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467897377 12524 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2016 13:16:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Emacs developers To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 15:16:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bL9A1-0000jP-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 15:16:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39899 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL99x-0000vy-Bi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL99Q-0000vY-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:15:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL99K-0003eI-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22b]:34794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL99K-0003e6-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id s66so22272716oif.1 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 06:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=kmFlyf4+2WYxD19JczpN0nUESW8Ca1SsrEJPca+WP6s=; b=ARet7wDzALJpYTSaoLKQFyuRGHFG9zWQoGQBNLBKAm1516AF6KOht6ZHj9EvUGGENq UN3M3vAA4w1/FdjpV1EIhSYuiUTkPbyQ0LTgGYxiXOYC8YoVfeHAexEJkTdrYCgn+FFd /YrZdPb0tQ7zcb/ArVKGKvx57zFWtgDqxB3/T7sRUFQkafUzGNfzOby8mJgH7eKJpqix Odz7L8nvcgvPe+Tnv1tIRYm9DlbXi8BwEA/01MnZu02B3UPjO4wejdXqE+FX6DR00Wix ExemOPV1GFK9O1944ofAhCWN9x2uKFzEWPSGJSH0fb6doh7v8uPxghJptI42piO+Rgcr TsDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kmFlyf4+2WYxD19JczpN0nUESW8Ca1SsrEJPca+WP6s=; b=hJK6FntNNGaN0GbFAjbsd7rD/yExvZXYtnzXDNq7OcawHRb6GtQhPqaDLGKM1Xw6kl PingVXBj+NW0dQXMCXIiVT8KASf1v0GhJQ/Y3FAKZmnZRPtZjzbyD0LMdA27rHP55cu3 numr6zO2OoUWN7sahmuCn3Z0RZSYSJPZ6fvGp+lRGR3NbW7ooXcj21PShpNs79Z6bfDT NwVIw2pz1h9XQtBsGcIwe0RYVsDe3tYiTsD6XcANmbQklYHszfKQBIKaGjEEHdlNioZC AsPqAuY4JFqPuf+WOVXdJ+Cfm5RekouM5wtIoQfCnHo5WvMsyfTTUbpbiyzamXLYKtR8 0+0w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLAtHIHzN+l+2CpfBEPEOZu7dxXIJv3EUYN0OrWGceNO+pA7RBjnpkhXJiIID7KQSeg4U3TJtoEwLK4NQ== X-Received: by 10.157.38.246 with SMTP id i51mr99690otd.112.1467897326117; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 06:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.157.4.197 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 06:15:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k2gx4ng3.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: aC3QgRtwrEl-tKCTzwLuzwHsm_E X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205318 Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > >> I've been sending patches to bug threads, and often getting useful >> feedback on them (and since it's by email, the comments can easily be >> inline). Personally, I don't find it more clunky than pushing to a >> branch, and then opening a PR in a web browser. > > This is true for the first patch, but not true for additional commits. Yeah, you're right about that. Most of my Emacs patches so far have been small enough that it didn't really bother me too much. > > >> Yes, some patches are forgotten, but I don't see how a PR "system" >> makes that less likely to happen, e.g., cask has a bunch of open PRs >> sitting around: https://github.com/cask/cask/pulls. > > I think you have just demonstrated my point. You found out all the > outstanding ones also. > > >>> Perhaps, as a half way house, we could use the resources that we have. >>> PRs could go to the bug reporting system. This will, at least, keep all >>> the conversations in one place. If we can tag these with "has patch" >>> here as well, it will give an queue also. >> >> I thought that was the current system. Here is the queue: >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;include=tags%3Apatch;bug-rev=on > > Again, also my point. If your point is that there are more open patches in Emacs than cask, IMO that's mostly because Emacs is a larger and older project. > > Phil