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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208836 Archived-At: On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Paul Eggert >> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:08:21 -0700 >> >> > We should withdraw 25.1, I think. >> >> I don't think that will help. Similar problems likely affect 24.5 and earlier >> versions, if they are built against bleeding-edge glibc and are configured in >> the default way. > > Indeed, I agree. People who first bump into this with Emacs 25.1 will > have 25.2 soon enough (I hope). By contrast, those who will try to > build Emacs 24.x on the newer GNU/Linux systems will be unable to > resolve the instability problems exposed by using ralloc.c, except by > back-porting patches we have just committed to the Emacs repository, > which is not easy. Wouldn't configuring with REL_ALLOC=no work?