From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the Emacs "nonportable dumper" catastrophe? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 23:06:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <837e6g3mln.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="116875"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: noloader@gmail.com, Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 10 05:07:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i7WUu-000UJf-FM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 05:07:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33636 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i7WUs-0001Yo-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 23:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i7WUm-0001Yg-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 23:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i7WUm-0000s2-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 23:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]:45055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i7WUk-0000qo-Fk; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 23:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 21so16001216otj.11; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D942vpSMcqUqxeiiwPMyijxgqyOGEPbeLLUbam7hgg8=; b=UKAdrQ6ESyF8ySa8DUHyknBWQ9ofBlXyoXln9lCkhW6MJ4QQ/NQ9ICMplEZpgya7zR SdDIgI0Dev/Vq4Gk7oWIiCJsasPipMULysKPGyQIWoPTEE6kEUOaBK1cRE2uhBxYmmbI QZkfwVqqSixyh2BBhzN2q94qBSCKaG1L5yZb1SsLQqM3MXkkmOOJZ5NSfJKjwKOJJRsL 7hAHD8P6jGeTl0d1Fjm9CrpJR0zLB2YH2aeGuAxOOv4gjdRNma2JItZ0Ba/tKzhDDECp 832cMiqaMNWSTfZ7SdR0noE/50uQ4ageScc5bd7ctegdgJShcgwbUA+i44vARMyF/htH sJOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D942vpSMcqUqxeiiwPMyijxgqyOGEPbeLLUbam7hgg8=; b=imbROMmDW7GFdi8opuI/KVmRssSwd7qqa4ZbvJtKMUxdwDsPJqlbRyNz1m/tnXx+7z AJckKrnJs/0rj9J4To0m24A3ZCfGRiT6Dkmhem0QgvG8zMcAJgQdJuFuDqtkIfpF1U6R RzB9BNTAljAGebkDQzOYlyiGfmMCOj8nntwE81uXhhXKcsJVDrwE9MBVel9lcSCVTUBy 1+punyOlQ3ko3WrKLft9m3Ntbi3QAe55zgwvDjKnGUuLVmv78l+4gL5nZMT/9j6JTkNb FS+sVVgcAxcVZlyP5eSxXUoazhA5kFPRLsaNtIOGaDcCFXQemqVzvpfTeWu+5Q/KEjTz E7rw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXgx1nsoVXlr0lmlTEdxuhVQIUzkCU20W3FcPoAKpg2Y5pjcFeJ tyefuoElK9tzs7c1coyKVKY7EB9oAaJ9JiSxmS+CkQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzr4N8BAUpaS5jLzmZTM94zBxBe6uDfhXWTAIJlAPCMMefmsy7ZPE6jVjDylXKIaomwujfQmEaJQtjtcfMRstE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:73c4:: with SMTP id m4mr14767813otk.369.1568084824853; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837e6g3mln.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::330 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239972 Archived-At: On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 22:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jeffrey Walton > > Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 21:44:12 -0400 > > > > There's never been a LISP compiler. LISP "compilers" > > just dump memory. See the Emacs "nonportable dumper" > > catastrophe that was only fixed in the last couple years. > > > > What is the catastrophe that was fixed? > > See the description of portable dumper in NEWS. The description of > the previous dumping as "catastrophe" is a wild exaggeration, IMNSHO. The author of the comment prefixed it with "", so I guess they might actually agree with you.