From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:00:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , thibaut.verron@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 22:03:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNiJo-00012L-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:03:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNiJm-00023A-NY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNiHM-0007wW-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:00:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x32b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b]:41484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNiHK-0007Gn-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:00:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id q21so3062955ota.8 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:00:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oUnxGT+jwoEHf0jA6uZOB6A59bpuCLoGKyDxIj+9BD8=; b=mGXqxpHrjti0T7vTw8usnY9vJHchMYZOUaOCUVcIh/3BD5p+aVD+9Ibnwmc2/QLq44 l/lSkwRhFlPMhigyJRotUVG9yl+DPm7kp4vwOwMrWsFYqKWq3fhYaaEx9vgmmzPlyR5b wux90K/NcHpHYCjiZWQ7XSlWYnfXAZCtkhWpZC7qRGptSko9QQJ4FvOqfwuv2TEnpZ7f cBJ4zjM9I7ZrDbGOPomD7K55n3ICJ/n8qCEikYZtsNEb8mdAi/cx3Hn1bfKzagOinT0d ZLmpuKfNS7f+iaR5kIy1tWRTFpaqIVqkz3RemBmz8RBHdD4l8pCgRueWJlkYrln+gba4 M53A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oUnxGT+jwoEHf0jA6uZOB6A59bpuCLoGKyDxIj+9BD8=; b=KChsCkb6Wjjtex7dIddkx3yHaBWzhcZK2DKXrb9jglR4Uq4cpHu6Ob4UOVfkfI+wtP BOO/Dfvi1MaIaUUd44CkIqzy5rEleVEiL70IK6vC+Zaxg+PxriCbTVBSXZzq9uIa7YuX +O0EK5ZOUt7JWE+SKQUw9VbIxv3yTBKTFwcR0zqialZMaPxYjl8pjKHydEE9F35YriUe gIcqsWy9AwbY4gi7e8kZNNgHpIvBXo5lzZwKP9UJNN7wukfulnVGDcDOITXcGih7yUSL 5ve4cHdsmYBRW2FrH4k3qIQ48SI7hrJ2cPa2PLnzVk5NuQVj63VULsBLG67r180OBKZz wS8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531iXyigxgXfvz1XFvZEiqIXn3NjhTtwC1Si3Q7RMARb0Q1jB/YC DFLHLyIp+bbsVzlWSichb4IkwHvOP/2V8RcwZTc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGEdfrq9DNtUpBXNGi1c05H0GwNz+6f34PitGxQb6XrsftBDBlHb6AdxFNmr392X/cfnDK5sNR+CKJe+3t+p4= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:5d2:: with SMTP id 76mr2364411otd.99.1601496040332; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:00:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=npostavs@gmail.com; helo=mail-ot1-x32b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256797 Archived-At: On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:58, T.V Raman wrote: > that's an interesting perspective. Am surprized that you feel tty > users would find C-z z significantly harder than just C-z as the key > to suspend Emacs. C-x C-z is already bound to suspend, works fine in tty (and is easier than C-z z, IMO).