From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs in the Cloud Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:59:32 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87y5zm8qw7.fsf@hi-media-techno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311980387 7885 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2011 22:59:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:59:47 +0000 (UTC) To: joakim@verona.se, Dimitri Fontaine , Paul Michael Reilly , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 30 00:59:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmw1v-0005G4-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:59:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmw1u-0003uA-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmw1s-0003tt-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:59:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmw1r-00046f-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:59:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f49.google.com ([209.85.210.49]:50974) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmw1p-00046T-N6; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so6107431pzk.8 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9ZLwoMxJmfYGMPuBtHsQKk6OHdF276M2iuVpLPyOT1E=; b=weShPOAcEqI7CcoaTWKzDKZCtIzbFMQt+wRCKADrdaJ+Hv12obwag82ERAIXfZ6yXP dHe1LGwFOIzPvWmFUAC3OhDoRtLr9vefCKvsAkqw24DJJJjxglKXvG1sGY/Zi8kKLXN0 icf7oka18cgCU9MxHBkmvhNc9Pa3EmMdXrS5c= Original-Received: by 10.68.30.74 with SMTP id q10mr941414pbh.463.1311980372727; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.52.232 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:59:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142498 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 17:09, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25 2011, joakim@verona.se wrote: > >> I use a graphical gtk based emacs everyday, and I also use terminal >> based Emacs sessions every day. Hardened remote servers will continue to >> actively not have any X installations for years to come. Terminal Emacs >> sessions clearly makes life more liveable in those cases. > > Does not sound like a good argument. Tunneled display over ssh already > exists for X11 for years. Tunneling HTML data does not sound like > something very hard to accomplish neither. :) > 1. Are you even tried to do such in real live (tunnel X11 through SSH)? Not in laboratory environment and fast LAN, but in the real live, through not so fast channels and with server in a some another country? Hint: I tried and found that 3 seconds for redraw Open File dialog is too much for me. 2. Even inside one machine and one user always exists a room for terminal. It was not once and not twice when ability to connect to Emacs server from a terminal (from console, if more preciously) was a lifebuoy when local X session become mad. -- Andrew W. Nosenko