From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Lindqvist?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 20:38:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87mukocyze.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83v9zceb3n.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvev1epx.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83v9zbcesn.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7gnypsx.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83sguecxth.fsf@gnu.org> <87r29t22pk.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87ef5t9h18.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87ftq47mq6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <877ebf8g8v.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k1f8nibt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="262738"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Phillip Lord To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 03 23:15:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hMfWK-0012u5-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 23:15:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMd5Y-0003sR-Gr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 14:39:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50994) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMd4j-0003r3-TV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 14:38:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMd4j-00072w-2q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 May 2019 14:38:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe42.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e42]:43246) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hMd4h-00070y-Fa; Fri, 03 May 2019 14:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe42.google.com with SMTP id e13so226736vsj.10; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:38:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/rF9Z+42DH55Cts0zI7CpfveWdjSUP3NPaRYzQ+cAyE=; b=aLxoRwfm4BVNAm9O3o/p0BZ5Xq/vLq32RolypTTqnOYgZMWqmyptW2ErW77Z/hF3Uy hA/ptCi8a6NRS+aF9RFZhWoBeWur5y8yrQbnr2TOsd6Cvx0BcLgXo/uEfGWrySPe+7KK 5asuIP/HhbpSKTyvvKcKo7yHzXsh5qCmTToqc+nR07P73x5LE3VNhA+2sqxmjYMFsrGE vT0CunVu+tXp16Q2fCdx/hU3pUDIuUWpu93orO6v6sBGyJcILFuFMobk/8zVgJnO8YTr Gn48wTtR8oNjJlWOYVB9Duc0aY3vpAJ5cL3z75T68imCFrJ5KtWgT744SMX6rjz6FnAL cMfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/rF9Z+42DH55Cts0zI7CpfveWdjSUP3NPaRYzQ+cAyE=; b=DWrcPleT67Dx22pPWAKs68+7coWg3bADeR9xQ5i5qewC71BRJ3Yd4CGq7n1UMrYc/F kcB8njytxZns3Yjt/2pBWg1dUT+Nb/qQkk+kq38O7V8sWFaYs5QdNqi/2L1H4j95SZE5 dZy5jjJLeHKB+4itKLRUJh21N4BF6KxrAsTU4VJtIDUWDZn5GPWgBS9Ag1+YRl0jt9Ms zVu46kaIVqyIechlYUWZ3CLUJ7071RtTcH11fUDKNDwDDKx2Nn0QT8Ovicx4vD2zHMaQ fgnXZlz9hQJc1eW2JU6csLvGnLFARAcGgHuvwpwKVU0KAsayGzKShYCWSzXkAQNpqjuf 2DaA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWNi4fHQ5EjNpg7aF0Ch68wCVICx5Ok1Gs8vDziAz6xNLVrqbok cvjSuveFdxuW4yoeTPwYxouAlmYmQJsa7moimG0V4iG3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy6frROG18HlDl2MqoEIw5Kb84O7yjbDF+JL5516CG7pofoaUuD4d5H8aPafF0cgAPHyXM+G/GM4zazNdBLOHQ= X-Received: by 2002:a67:87d3:: with SMTP id j202mr6001047vsd.21.1556908701910; Fri, 03 May 2019 11:38:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83k1f8nibt.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236112 Archived-At: > > I tried to remove it and emacs still works fine. But it feels like > > it starts a little slower. > > Of course. That's the whole reason for having that file. > > > Perhaps emacs could regenerate that file if it detects it is > > missing. > > I don't think Emacs should write any files without user's say-so. > There is a function you can invoke to produce a dump file, so an > unusual situation such as this one does have a solution. Wouldn't it be more efficient if each user had their own .pdmp file? For example, I never use gnus but I use markdown-mode and erc all the time so, for me, it would be better if the latter two packages were part of the dump image but not the former. --=20 mvh/best regards Bj=C3=B6rn Lindqvist