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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235637 Archived-At: Den ons 17 apr. 2019 kl 18:18 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:49:06 +0300 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > From: Stefan Monnier > > > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:39:52 -0400 > > > > > > FWIW, I think saving a 100MB is worth the extra work. > > > > We cannot make that decision, only Phillip can. > > And btw, invoking through a batch file is in no way 100% transparent. > For example, I think users who start Emacs from MSYS Bash will have to > go through cmd.exe, because Bash cannot interpret batch files > directly. So we will have to provide both a batch file and a Unix > shell script, at least. That's true so a batch file is no good. But isn't the runemacs.exe file already handling the indirection? If that file is compiled with CHOOSE_NEWEST_EXE defined, then it will automagically choose the most recent emacs*.exe if multiple version are installed in the same directory. Personally, I never run the emacs.exe nor emacs-xy.z.exe directly because it opens up a useless cmd.exe window. Instead I use runemacs.exe from the Start menu and emacsclientw.exe from the Explorer shell. -- mvh/best regards Bj=C3=B6rn Lindqvist