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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: felipelema@mortemale.org,
	Tobias Rittweiler <trittweiler@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Eglot and Tramp
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 17:32:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm53pYdaK1VemZDf5nEfeoXVGXZ18_ucmfrBy6EOLAhyF2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm51m_uia6D97VxrFVJFirOp-t9MVn9eW0rORsqeB=ZpNLg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:30 PM João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:28 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Hi João,
> >
> > >> No annoyance. But a user of Emacs 26.3 has Tramp 2.3.5 built-in. Because
> > >> of Eglot, Tramp 2.4.4 would be installed for her from GNU ELPA, w/o
> > >> having asked for.
> > >
> > > Well, this user did ask for Eglot.  He will also get an updated
> > > xref.el, project.el eldoc.el, flymake.el as already happens.  I'm
> > > afraid this is just how inter-package dependencies work.
> >
> > The point is that this Tramp upgrade is not mandatory. Only if a user
> > wants to apply Eglot remotely. I'm the last one who would say a Tramp
> > upgrade is bad :-) But a Tramp upgrade w/o a reason?
>
> Yes, but in that vein of thinking then Tramp shouldn't be bundled
> with Emacs too. There are lots of things we can do with Emacs
> that don't require Tramp.  But some of them do, and so we bundle
> Tramp.
>
> And the same thing if we substitute Tramp for any feature X.

Of course, we do take something similar in consideration regarding
the _loading_ of X.  For that, we have just-in-time "autoloads".  But
we don't have just-in-time "autoinstalls" yet.

João



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87y2oocltq.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <87pn9v19e8.fsf@gmx.de>
2020-06-19 13:23   ` Eglot and Tramp João Távora
2020-06-19 13:44     ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 14:09       ` João Távora
2020-06-19 14:43         ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 14:45           ` João Távora
2020-06-19 14:54             ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 16:18               ` João Távora
2020-06-19 16:28                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 16:30                   ` João Távora
2020-06-19 16:32                     ` João Távora [this message]
2020-06-19 16:39                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 16:45                         ` João Távora
2020-06-19 17:30                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-19 17:36                             ` João Távora
2020-06-19 17:47                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-19 18:01                                 ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-14  8:20 eglot and tramp Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-11-15  1:18 ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-15 15:33   ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-15 17:45     ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-15 19:46       ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-16 12:29         ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-16 16:14           ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-18 15:51             ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-19 16:24               ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-20 13:50                 ` Michael Albinus
2022-11-21 11:51                   ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-21 12:11                     ` Michael Albinus
2024-05-04 17:00                       ` Michael Albinus
2024-05-12 17:48                         ` Michael Albinus
2024-05-15 16:40                           ` brian via Emacs development discussions.

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