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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306163 Archived-At: --000000000000f710f405fbe58747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 3:06=E2=80=AFPM Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > > > FWIW i agree with you on all points. > > > > It's important for packages to be allowed to keep the names the developers > > baptized them with. > > Important in what sense? In just the sense Susam described. My message simply intended to support Susam's view. > There have frequently been authors that have > changed the names of their packages when this was suggested to them, so > it doesn't like it was important for them. I don't see the relevance. Susam doesn't want to and IMO it's perfectly legitimate. > People are making a bigger > deal out of quirky names than it should be. Precisely my point, so let's stop insisting that authors change the names of their creations. --000000000000f710f405fbe58747 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 3:06=E2=80=AFPM Philip Kaludercic= <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > FWIW i agree with you on all points.
> >
> > It's important for packages to be allowed to keep the names t= he developers
> > baptized them with.
>
> Important in what sense?

In just the sense Susam described.=C2=A0 My message simply intended=C2=A0to= support Susam's view.

> There have frequently been authors that have
> changed the names of their packages when this was suggested to them, s= o
> it doesn't like it was important for them.

I don't see the relevance. Susam doesn't want to and IMO it'= ;s perfectly legitimate.

> People are making a bigger
> deal out of quirky names than it should be.

Precisely my point, so let's stop insisting that authors change the= names
of their creations.
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