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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249435 Archived-At: On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:35 PM Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > > Finally, above practical aspects, assigning copyright is declaring > > support for an idea larger than the FSF itself. It's a political > > declaration. > Could someone officially confirm or deny the above paragraph? > It is very much false. By assigning your copyright to the FSF you do > just that and nothing else, it says nothing about what values you hold > or wish to endorse. I don't resist asking: does relinquishing copyright of a work to the "Free Software Foundation" a "nonprofit with a worldwide mission to promote computer user freedom" really say nothing about what values one wishes to endorse? Maybe. =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF I'm happy to clarify that it did, _for m= e_, and that's how I meant it. No idea why others did or didn't do that. Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora